Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:58:27 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #379 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Hitting the ground with your stick (Stephen Lamade) 2. Book plug (Gilmour, Julian) 3. Re: Book plug (jay de leon) 4. Re: Book plug (iPat) 5. Re: Book plug (Ray) 6. Re: Book plug (iPat) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Stephen Lamade To: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:35:22 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Hitting the ground with your stick Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ray Terry wrote that "you can use it [hitting the floor with your stick] to help reverse the direction of your stick, and so on..." This is precisely the point in San Miguel Eskrima's "Banda" pattern wherein a diagonal backhand downward stike covers the line from the top to the bottom of the opponent and seems to bounce off the floor into a forehand diagonal upward strike along the same line. It's tempting to surmise that the Cebuano term "Banda" is somehow related to a Spanish cognate for "band," i.e., rubber band given the elastic quality of the stike. Of course Pekiti Tirisa Kali is famous for the toe-strike in the Seguidas; the Dog Brothers also adapted this stike to their repitioire and stress the high-line cover that follows the strike. With respect to hitting your own sticks with double sticks one interpretation (at least in solo practice) is that you are practicing the rebound and redirection that would occur from a parry to a strike to the opposite side. Another interpretation is that you are guiding their stick into your parry and subsequent rebound and redirection. Best, --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:37:32 -0000 From: "Gilmour, Julian" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Book plug Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all A shameless plug: My teacher, Bob Breen has recently brought out a book entitled 'Fighting, a path to understanding'. Whilst aimed primarily at beginners and intermediates and basic form and tactics, I'm sure it would also be of use/interest to the more seasoned people on this list, or for your students. It relates to empty hand, and draws on lessons from boxing, thai, kali, panantukan, JKD, wing chun and karate. Many of you will know Bob, at least by reputation. He has an amazing fighting pedigree, he is Guru Inosanto's longest-running student in the UK (around 27 years) and is pretty much considered the father of Filipino martial arts in Europe. I've just started reading it and I've already found it a real eye-opener. Available through Amazon Strike from the void Julian ****************************** This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, disclose or take any action in reliance to it. This e-mail and any attachments have been checked by virus detection software before transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks on the contents of this communication. We accept no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses or by interception or interruption of this mail. Unless otherwise indicated, this e-mail has no contractual effect and may only be used for the purpose(s) indicated in it. The statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Financial Ombudsman Service Ltd. ****************************** --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:12:53 -0800 (PST) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Book plug To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "...is pretty much considered the father of Filipino martial arts in Europe" I am not familiar with FMA history in Europe. I thought Rene Latosa had some tenuous claim to that title. Jay de Leon www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com "Gilmour, Julian" wrote: Hi all A shameless plug: My teacher, Bob Breen has recently brought out a book entitled 'Fighting, a path to understanding'. Whilst aimed primarily at beginners and intermediates and basic form and tactics, I'm sure it would also be of use/interest to the more seasoned people on this list, or for your students. It relates to empty hand, and draws on lessons from boxing, thai, kali, panantukan, JKD, wing chun and karate. Many of you will know Bob, at least by reputation. He has an amazing fighting pedigree, he is Guru Inosanto's longest-running student in the UK (around 27 years) and is pretty much considered the father of Filipino martial arts in Europe. I've just started reading it and I've already found it a real eye-opener. Available through Amazon Strike from the void Julian ****************************** This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, disclose or take any action in reliance to it. This e-mail and any attachments have been checked by virus detection software before transmission. 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Try it now. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:16:02 +0000 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Book plug Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net seconded a lovely book indeed. And you feature in a couple of pictures Julian, looking dashing as ever! On 12/14/06, Gilmour, Julian wrote: > Hi all > A shameless plug: > My teacher, Bob Breen has recently brought out a book entitled > 'Fighting, a path to understanding'. Whilst aimed primarily at beginners > and intermediates and basic form and tactics, I'm sure it would also be > of use/interest to the more seasoned people on this list, or for your > students. > It relates to empty hand, and draws on lessons from boxing, thai, kali, > panantukan, JKD, wing chun and karate. > Many of you will know Bob, at least by reputation. He has an amazing > fighting pedigree, he is Guru Inosanto's longest-running student in the > UK (around 27 years) and is pretty much considered the father of > Filipino martial arts in Europe. > I've just started reading it and I've already found it a real > eye-opener. > Available through Amazon > > > Strike from the void > Julian -- Pat Davies www.amag.org.uk --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Book plug To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:28:11 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > "...is pretty much considered the father of > Filipino martial arts in Europe" > > I am not familiar with FMA history in Europe. I thought > Rene Latosa had some tenuous claim to that title. Brits usually don't consider themselves as part of Europe, so.?. :) But, yes, Rene studied under Angel and learned Serrada up to angle 5 before heading off to the Air Force. While stationed in Germany he was one of the first to teach Eskrima there. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:32:02 +0000 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Book plug Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Bob may have travelled first to a group in East Anglia somewhere - maybe Peterborough. They were the first known group in the UK practicing the FMA i think early 70s. I'm pretty sure i learnt this info from Bob either by mouth or in an interview. Bob is credited as being the father of JKD in the UK as he first brought Inosanto over and started that side of things off. Whether Julian meant this i dont know, but his FMA training started before his exposure to Inosanto. I learnt the otherday Ray that we are notsubjects anymore but citizens! Fancy that! Promotion! On 12/14/06, Ray wrote: > > "...is pretty much considered the father of > > Filipino martial arts in Europe" > > > > I am not familiar with FMA history in Europe. I thought > > Rene Latosa had some tenuous claim to that title. > > Brits usually don't consider themselves as part of Europe, so.?. :) > > But, yes, Rene studied under Angel and learned Serrada up to angle 5 before > heading off to the Air Force. While stationed in Germany he was one of > the first to teach Eskrima there. > > Ray Terry > rterry@idiom.com > _______________ -- Pat Davies www.amag.org.uk --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest