Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 02:58:30 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 13 #390 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2300 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re: CABALES (Djinji Brown) 2. Re: Singapore Ni Tian Martial Art School (Ray) 3. Stockton Women Escrimadors (Terrence David Reyes) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:29:19 -0800 From: Djinji Brown To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: CABALES Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net No disrespect to Mr. Wiley or any other author of martial arts text, but I disagree with the notion that the secrets of a martial discipline lie within a book. Its like the idea of taking martial arts/ self defense online, I understand the concept just dont agree with it. its just my opinion. I picked up Mr wiley's book on Serrada Escrima at a store in NYC, i flipped through it and wasnt impressed with the overall presentation of the book. I was really disappointed because I wanted to learn more about GM Cabales, but without the secrets thing attached to it. When i looked at the pages it was little text on GM Cabales life and a lots more texts describing still shots of various techniques within the system. I was very interested in reading more on the life and history of GM Antonio Illustrisimo and his system as well. I picked up "The secrets of Kali Illustrisimo" but I was again turned off by the claim of " secrets" . Q# 1. Is that in fact a good book perhaps I let my prejudgement fool me? Q#2. Is the "secrets of " prefix that covers many martial arts text a marketing tool geared towards the American and European market? D. Brown On Thursday, December 21, 2006, at 11:21AM, "Ray" wrote: >> Those who are interested in GM Cabales may wish to seek out Mark Wiley's >> "The Secrets of Cabales Serrada Escrima." I believe it is available at >> www.powells.com and other fine book sellers. I just received my copy >> yesterday and haven't had a chance to read it yet. However, I welcome any >> reviews/comments. > >An ok book. However there are a few errors and it was not approved by >Angel even tho Wiley claims otherwise. The letter of support from Angel >included in the book was NOT from Angel, per Angel's son Vincent. And >Wiley had promised to forward a draft of the book to Vincent for this review >and for corrections, that was apparently never done. > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 2400 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Singapore Ni Tian Martial Art School To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:26:35 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Congratulations on your new school. I have actually participated in a couple >of seminars given by Jeff Espinous--very skilled guro and entertaining teacher >with superb fighting/kickboxing skills. Yes, Jeff is a good guy. Very well known in Europe. He used to visit us here in the Bay Area every now and then to train under Suro Inay. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:07:40 -0800 From: "Terrence David Reyes" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Stockton Women Escrimadors Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >>>>Well, off the top of my head, there was Princess Josephina, whom Floro Villibrille and Feliscimo Dizon considered to be their favorite teacher. And, Mary Tovar, an early member of the Cabales Stockton Eskrima group, and the first woman to be promoted to Instructor by Angel Cabales. And of course there is Graciela<<<<< In Stockton you can add Manang Tenio, and there was also Manang Albina Pasco. There were a few other Manangs like Emilia Carpo in Walnut Grove who were said to know some escrima for self defense but calling it a complete escrima system would be a stretch, however her husband was a very well known fighter. She was the cook in the pear camp and always had the itak close at hand, perhaps so no one would complain about her terrible cooking. :) Angel always said his best and fastest female escrimadors were the daughters of Gong Lee. For those who don't know, Gong Lee is a chinese restaurant/buffet in Stockton that also housed the Cabales Serrada Academy. The daughters of Dentoy Revillar are also well versed and highly skilled. Recalling a demo Jeannine and Jimmy did in Malolos, in Bulcan Province in 1976, her wearing only a duster, tsinelas and a red panyo that had the crowd in complete awe and calling for more. She took a strong #1 that glanced her head pretty good in a full spar from Jimmy and she didn't even flinch! Thanks for listening and Happy Holidays to all! Best Regards, David Reyes --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest