Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 07:42:04 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #75 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Filmocan Eskrima - Master Panto Flores; balisong picture (nephalim1@aim.com) 2. Re: Books or Other Sources on Energy Transfer and Sensing an (iPat) 3. Video Clips (isagani abon) 4. Seminar by Master Felix Roiles of PAKAMUT fighting art (Lawrence, Marc J.) 5. Sensing energy in FMA (Stephen Lamade) 6. Bodyguard information (Gilmour, Julian) 7. Re: Books or Other Sources on Energy Transfer and Sensing an (Marc Macyoung) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Filmocan Eskrima - Master Panto Flores; balisong picture Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:18:03 -0400 From: nephalim1@aim.com Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Steve, I'll be working on it. Sorry, don't know why it did what it did. -----Original Message----- From: lhommedieu@hotmail.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:32 AM Subject: [Eskrima] Filmocan Eskrima - Master Panto Flores; balisong picture Following are some recent YouTube videos of Master Panto Flores (www.filmocan.com): Filmocan Eskrima Single Stick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qgzA8do_Iw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXYH6ofS-V0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUAMig2r4ro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX9mbq3D828 Filmocan Eskrima Single Knife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX9mbq3D828 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi0_kyo8ejE San Miguel Eskrima: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8h-uH_iusQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ttYeke3EXk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUKM1SnzZuA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8akaqjqC978 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0HmL5Xubzg *** Jose - I wasn't able to download the balisong picture; would you mind posting it again? Best, Steve Lamade _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2400 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:13:21 +0000 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Books or Other Sources on Energy Transfer and Sensing an Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net eloquently put. It repetition and the instinctive understanding of how the opponent moves that can only lead to the knowing of what will happen. Im sceptical if this can be learnt from a book and quite honestly the tried and tested method is more fun! On 3/20/07, Ray wrote: > What has that got to do with anything? Well, after some amount of time > spent doing drills and flow sparring and full-contact fighting, you do gain > a sense of what the other person is going to do before they do it.... by how > they move, how they carry themselves, how relaxed or tense they are, where > they are looking, etc. -- Pat Davies www.amag.org.uk --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: isagani abon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Video Clips Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net We upload some videos at youtube playing with drills at the IMAFP Arnis Tournament and hope you all guys Like it although it’s Blurr, it features me in Black T shirt with some of my student and my Mentor PG Espera in BLUE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLdc2yNfMYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP0_oBGJRAA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OfOBrNFM4Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuHr_rf_bNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiFzkCUftSU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM7TIP_Jkec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM7TIP_Jkec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw91P78mtcQ Gumagalang, Isagani Abon Guro, Rapido Realismo Kali http://www.angelfire.com/art2/rapidorealismo --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:58:53 -0700 From: "Lawrence, Marc J." To: Subject: [Eskrima] Seminar by Master Felix Roiles of PAKAMUT fighting art Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net To All, On Saturday March 17th, I attended a seminar by Master Felix Roiles, a two time world heavy weight champion of stick fighting. It was a near capacity crowd at the Seminar room at I &I martial art supply. For stick fighting the room could only hold 16 safely and there were 15 sign ups. The seminar was fantastic, Master Felix really did great job in both explaining and demonstrating technique. He did great job of making so that all levels of experience could understand the material. He did great job of showing fighting from Largo, Media and Corto with single stick fighting. He showed the empty hand techniques that was translated from stick fighting. The knife was both basic and advanced levels. The disarms were practical and simple. The single stick locks and take downs for the Law enforcement crowd was great. Some of the comments from other participants were: that the PAKAMUT system was the most intact system they had ever seen. With direct translation from single stick to knife to empty hands. Master Felix's efficiency of motion techniques was the best they ever seen. A good time was had by all, the seminar was only supposed to go till 6pm but everybody stayed and practiced for another hour, then it was dinner time were a group of participants and Master Felix went out for some dinner. Finally as with all good things having to come to end, everybody left the restaurant as they closed at 9pm. Marc Lawrence South Bay --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Stephen Lamade To: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:06:53 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Sensing energy in FMA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Anthony wrote: "Can anyone suggest a good book, website, specific exercises, etc. for developing and/or practicing this important skill on my own?" The Chinese refer to this skill as "listening" and it is described in several of the Chinese internal martial arts classics. As Ray suggests, it is more a matter of putting in the time and committing to the learning process than anything else. Cacoy Canete does indeed possess this kind of skill: although I've only met him twice I had the pleasure of being his impromptu uke (I asked him to demonstrate a throw) once during a seminar and I could tell he was feeling his way through my early breakfall - at the last possible moment he "juiced" the throw and slammed me into the mat! Probably the best possible exercise you could do are the various "push hands" exercise found in various Chinese martial arts - particularly Tai Qi Quan. Western fencing also helps to develop this skill although you will need a qualified teacher willing to give up just enough of his/her line to give you an opening - this is a very classical form of teaching. Ultimately though it's just a matter of being willing to slow down long enough to feel what you are doing - and I should add that all arts possess this skill-level to some degree or another. And I will confess that it's not the easiest thing to do. I have one teacher who likes to have me "spar" against him at quarter-speed (which is different, of course, from a pre-set drill) and I still feel like an enormous block of wood being chased slowly from one side of the floor to the other. This is but another example of a kind of "push hands" albeit done within a more open framework Sometimes it's beneficial to do solo exercises that allow you to feel what your own body is doing before going on to the next level of learning how to feel anoher person's energy. An excellent book about this kind of exercise is Tim Cartmell's "Wang Ji Wu's Xing Yi Nei Gong," available on www.amazon.com and Plum Blossom Press. Best, --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:56:26 -0000 From: "Gilmour, Julian" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Bodyguard information Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all I dabble in writing fiction, and a book that I am currently writing has a bodyguard character in it. Can any of you guys suggest a source of information on body guarding/close protection, that would help me get the 'feel' of a bodyguard's experiences. I am familiar with 'commentary walking' and such like, but anything further such as cardinal 'do's and 'don't's while on a job would be helpful. Thanks in advance "Strike from the void." Julian ****************************** This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, disclose or take any action in reliance to it. This e-mail and any attachments have been checked by virus detection software before transmission. You should carry out your own virus checks on the contents of this communication. We accept no liability for any loss or damage which may be caused by software viruses or by interception or interruption of this mail. Unless otherwise indicated, this e-mail has no contractual effect and may only be used for the purpose(s) indicated in it. The statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Financial Ombudsman Service Ltd. This email has originated from the Financial Ombudsman Service Ltd. South Quay Plaza, 183 Marsh Wall, London E14 9SR, United Kingdom. Registered as a limited company in England and Wales No. 3725015. Registered office as above. ****************************** --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Marc Macyoung" To: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:38:01 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Books or Other Sources on Energy Transfer and Sensing an Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > In my Kali class my instructor and his most advanced students often refer > to and teach the art of maintaining one's body in a relaxed state so that > one can feel his opponent's intentions through the energy that they convey > to them during an engagement. This is a component of the entire energy > field and transference curriculum. Although physical touch is involved, > this tends to be more of an exercise of the mind and spirit than anything > else. > - Anthony Perhaps I can be of assistance here. First off there is a book called "Warrior Speed." A real wowie kazowie title but some solid information about how to develop speed through grooming of one's nervous system. An interesting part is on what he refers to as perceptual speed. Basically it means, by reading subtle signs you see it coming a whole lot sooner so your time to react increases. Not particularly woo-woo, but kind of like an observer on an old Navy ship knew that on an ocean filled with whitecaps, a particular type of wake was a periscope. See that wake and it meant that there was a submarine. Very small, very subtle, cue but immediately recognizable to someone who knew what it meant. You can learn to recognize the attack cues of your system. The second relates to structure, body posture and our nervous system. Basically how you stand effects how aware you are. There are certain poses that we can take where our muscles can kind of relax. We can assume this kind of pose with minimum muscle tension. The reason they can relax is because our skeleton is carrying the load. Realize that we can maintain non-structural poses, but that in order to do this, we must tighten our muscles to stay there. (Compare the tension you feel between your arm sticking out from your side with your elbow down (wieght of your forearm locks the elbow) vs. when you are holding it straight out with your elbow pointing to the ceiling (you have to maintain the straightness via muscle tension). While you might feel a strain with the elbow down position, what you are feeling is "pull" of muscle stretch not muscle tension. Understand that when our muscles are "tight" the nervous system is firing. The electro-chemical process that our nervous system functions by is figuratively saying "tighten these muscles, hold this position" etc. Ever heard the old saw about "If you're talking you ain't listening"? Same, same. When your muscles are tight they aren't "listening." IF -- and that is an important qualifier -- you have been taught to move into the proper pose, your skeleton should be doing most of the work... not your muscles. When you are relaxed your nervous system can process other information. In otherwords since they aren't "talking," they can start to "listen." Instead of sending data, your nervous system can start to receive it. We can demonstrate this with the same arm out thing we did earlier. If you felt the pull of muscle stretch, hold your other arm out, elbow down. When you feel the stretch, tighten your arm muscles. That pull feeling is drowned out. Now we can expand this analogy of "talking" a bit and say that when you are trying to keep from getting hit from a stick, there's a lot of background noise (adrenalin, fear and such). This is kind of like trying to be heard in a nightclub with loud music. You don't even realize you are yelling and any small and subtle noise is totally drowned out (ever been suprised by a waitress unexpectedly coming up behind you in a nightclub?) In the beginning most students aren't even aware of how tight they are and as such their nervous system is like trying to talk in a loud bar. Once you learn these poses -- and again that depends on them being taught correctly -- you can begin to relax. When this happens you will begin to feel information transmitted through the stick much, much faster than your eye can track it. And you will be able to correctly interpret it much, much faster because it is through direct connection of touch. But a big portion of this is dependant in being in the right structural pose so you CAN relax in order to receive data. So that is both a layman's explanation and a way to understand the physiology and kinesetics of something that looks woo-woo. It's not woo-woo. There is some pretty solid science to back it up. Woo-woo will eventually come into it, but that's a couple more miles down the road. Right now, focus on getting your body into correct alignment so you can achieve your goals through structure, not muscle and you will amazed at how much unnecessary tension you will drop and how much more you will become aware of. Marc MacYoung www.nononsenseselfdefense.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest