Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:00:47 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #264 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2400 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Remy Presas and Wing Chun (Brian Johns) 2. Indian eskrima (Eskrima-FMA) 3. ESKRIMA (steven.armstrong1@us.army.mil) 4. Re: Re: Remy Presas and Modern arnis being taught on Molokai (jay de leon) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 14:54:00 -0400 From: "Brian Johns" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Remy Presas and Wing Chun Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >The martial art was created by Filipino Grandmaster Remy Presas. "It's >a combination of balintawak, arnis, karate, judo and wing tzun," >Crumpton said. Presas learned all those martial arts from different >masters in the Philippines and started teaching them on a linear >format, according to Crumpton. > > >Well if I am sure about one thing than, that GM Remy Presas >never >learned any wing tzun, wing chun or how ever you would like >to spell it, in the Philippines. >Check the "50 years of Modern Arnis" magazine, which is >about GM Remy >Presas' life. This is one area of Professor Presas's martial arts career that I had always been curious about. I had always wondered if he had any wing chun training and if he did, how much. The reason that I mention that is that his wife, Yvette Wong, is a wing chun player who has produced some wing chun and tai chi videos in Canada. When Guro Dan McConnell and I visited Professor in Victoria, BC in February of 2001, Yvette mentioned to us (if I recall correctly) and, in passing, that she had done some wing chun with Professor. Of course, whether that meant that they trained in wing chun on a regular basis or if they did it only a couple of times is something that I wished I had the foresight to ask. As it turns out, we were just focused on seeing Professor and being concerned for his health. So I think that it's possible that he may have learned some wing chun. However, I do concede that it's speculation and would love to hear any solid information on this. Take care, Brian Johns Toronto, Canada --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:35:11 -0700 From: Eskrima-FMA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Indian eskrima Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Unique way to stay fit 2 Sept No 'stick'y wicket here! The Times of India 'Sticks and stones may break your bones', so goes the old phrase. Unless, of course, the sticks in question are ones used in the special Filipino martial art form known as Arnis. While Kung-Fu, Karate and Judo use the legs, hands and fists as 'weapons', the martial art form of Arnis employs two sticks that are 28 inches in length and two inches in diameter. Although this martial art technique is not as popular as its distant cousins, it is slowly but surely becoming stronger (pun intended) in Mumbai. Melwin Joseph, a fourth degree black belt in the Japanese Goju Ryu style of martial arts, who teaches Arnis, karate, kickboxing and jujitsu in Mumbai, elaborates on this import of sorts from the Philippines. "Technique is of utmost importance in this form of martial art. Arnis has three stages, or levels: basic, advanced and fights. All in all, there are 12 basic strikes that are used with the sticks," explains Melwin, adding that unlike other martial art forms that use the hands and legs, in Arnis, the sticks take centrestage. What makes this martial art form even more popular is that it need not just be used as a form of self-defence; in fact, most Mumbaikars are looking at it as another, more exciting way to exercise. "It's a great way to tone the upper body, especially the forearms, biceps, triceps, shoulders and back. It also has a variety of leg movements, including lunges and squats, so it's a great lower body workout as well. The jumping and striking make it all the more strenuous and helps keep the body flexible," says Melwin. But there are other side-effects (read: advantages) too! "It brings total harmony to and imparts a special grace to the body. The training with the sticks increases eye and hand co-ordination, while the jumping and constant movement increase stamina and strength," says dance choreographer Sandip Soparrkar, who has been learning this form since the past six months. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:45:34 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] ESKRIMA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I was wondering about training aids for youth. I have a 9 year old son who has a lord of the rings video game for his TV and it came with a sword he is able to practice all his basic strikes and parries with it. I was able to make it a fun learning experience for him. I was wondering if there were any suggestions for other training aids for kids. I have 4 Kids and I would like to have all of them learn ESCRIMA as it has been a large part of my life. Any suggestions will be helpful THANKS SSG ARMSTRONG --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:00:15 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Remy Presas and Modern arnis being taught on Molokai To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree that wing chun is not normally mentioned as a component of Remy's Modern Arnis, but in his later years in Manila, was he not exposed to all those kung fu masters/practitioners in Chinatown, either on a friendly or not-so-friendly basis? I guess we can draw a parallel in that in his later years in the United States, was he not influenced by his touring partners Wally Jay and maybe even George Dillman? Read the magazine, right Dieter? Jay de Leon www.tipunan.com ABANICO wrote: >From: Eskrima-FMA >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Modern arnis being taught on Molokai >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >The martial art was created by Filipino Grandmaster Remy Presas. "It's >a combination of balintawak, arnis, karate, judo and wing tzun," >Crumpton said. Presas learned all those martial arts from different >masters in the Philippines and started teaching them on a linear >format, according to Crumpton. > > Well if I am sure about one thing than, that GM Remy Presas never learned any wing tzun, wing chun or how ever you would like to spell it, in the Philippines. Check the "50 years of Modern Arnis" magazine, which is about GM Remy Presas' life. Greetings from Germany Dieter Knüttel datu@modern-arnis.de _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2400 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest