Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:46:44 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #300 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2400 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Pananandata seminar Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #299 - 4 msgs (Pananandta@aol.com) 2. Guru Stevan Plinck's Big Las Vegas Sera Workshop (Todd Ellner) 3. RE: Pananandata seminar Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #299 - 4 msgs (mpc60) 4. Sulong, It's Been Good to Know You OR Mushtaq's Merry Marauders Hit People With Sticks and Knives (Todd Ellner) 5. Wheelchair eskrima (Eskrima-FMA) 6. Re: Sulong, It's Been Good to Know You OR Mushtaq's Merry Marauders (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Pananandta@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:34:50 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Pananandata seminar Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #299 - 4 msgs Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net KRS, Thanks for the kind words. My son Amante Jr. has fulfilled the requirements for and holds the rank Master of Pananandata. One other student of mine, Ralph White, is a candidate for the title Master of Pananandata. He needs to complete one more pre-requisite which I expect him to do so in 2008. Best regatds to all ED'ers. APM ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:03:29 -0700 From: Todd Ellner To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Guru Stevan Plinck's Big Las Vegas Sera Workshop Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Guru Steve Plinck will be having a three day Sera seminar the second weekend of August in 2008. I realize that's a long way off, but he'd like to get the word out early so that interested people can make travel plans. It's open to Silat players in general and Sera stylists in particular. We don't know everyone who is coming yet, but there will be participants from as far away as Italy and Scandinavia and quite a few from the Americas including (we hope) people like Guru Bob Vannata, Guru Bud Thompson and Guru Cliff Stewart. The schedule and particulars are still being worked out. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: mpc60 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Pananandata seminar Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #299 - 4 msgs Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:15:55 -0400 To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello Professor Marinas, My name is Karl and I posted the comments. I'm sorry if my comments were in accurate regarding who holds master rank. I hope you remember working with me Saturday. Please let me know when the next NYC seminar is taking place so I may attend. Again I thank you for your time and training you gave me that day. Regards, Karl -----Original Message----- From: Pananandta@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:34 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Pananandata seminar Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #299 - 4 msgs KRS, Thanks for the kind words. My son Amante Jr. has fulfilled the requirements for and holds the rank Master of Pananandata. One other student of mine, Ralph White, is a candidate for the title Master of Pananandata. He needs to complete one more pre-requisite which I expect him to do so in 2008. Best regatds to all ED'ers. APM ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2400 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:20:49 -0700 From: Todd Ellner To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Sulong, It's Been Good to Know You OR Mushtaq's Merry Marauders Hit People With Sticks and Knives Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Competition has always been a bit of an issue for Silat players. On one hand, and no disrespect meant to the efforts of IPSI in making a competitive sport, it can turn into something that just isn't Silat any more. On the other hand, you have "traditionalists" who say "This is too deadly to use in the ring, any ring. You'll just have to take our word that it works." Just a little while back Mushtaq Ali Al-Ansari - http://tracelesswarrior.blogspot.com - of Silat Zul Fikari - http://www.zulfakr.com - and other martial arts too numerous to list demonstrated pretty convincingly that there is a middle ground. At the Sulong Tournament in late September he took a number or students who had been doing Silat, mostly for about a year, and tossed them into the ring with stick and knife fighters from a variety of Southeast Asian traditions. The record speaks for itself. His students did very, very well against people most of whom had more experience. A number of other big winners at the event had cross trained with him. I wasn't there, so I'll let you see it in his own words - http://tracelesswarrior.blogspot.com/2007/09/sulong-tournament.html I don't mean this just as a plug for Mushtaq or Chuck Pippin - http://www.innovativemartialarts.com although they deserve it. And I'm not doing it to say that Silat is the greatest thing since crunchy peanut butter although I think it is. What's important is that Silat players are getting out there and fighting. They're having a chance to test their stuff against good players from other styles without having to water down their material. They're doing a good job. With any luck this will just be the first of many such events. Anything that keeps our reality checks from bouncing is all too the good. Todd Ellner --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:21:42 -0700 From: Eskrima-FMA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Wheelchair eskrima Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Filipino martial arts, escrima, gets noticed in hands of a master San Francisco Chronicle Oct 16 Although Carlito Bonjoc Jr. was born with spina bifida an... Carlito Bonjoc Jr., in wheelchair, spars with Sombat Somb... Bonjoc says escrima is most notable for its ability to us... As Carlito Bonjoc Jr. gets his arms going, it's best to get out of the way. Like way out of the way. The blur of hands wielding wide, stocky knives interspersed with flashes of reflected sunlight is a hypnotic, fluid movement. It's a bit like watching a finely choreographed dance. But what Bonjoc is demonstrating is the little-known Philippine martial art of escrima. The other difference: He does it from the seat of his wheelchair or with the aid of crutches. The 46-year-old escrima master was born with spina bifida, a congenital spinal cord defect that can affect the lower body and result in paralysis, yet he doesn't tolerate pity. "There are so many people out there that have physical challenges," says Bonjoc, whose calm composure contrasts sharply with the intensity of his gaze. "Some are born with it; we're the lucky ones because this is what we grew up with. We learned to deal with this early. Now, with the reality of war, we have a lot of young people that come back from the war with some of their body parts missing, or some get in a car accident and lose a limb or become paralyzed, and those are harder to take because they had all their physical abilities growing up and then all of a sudden it was taken from them. That must be much harder than what I had." Bonjoc was born on the southern Philippine island of Mindanao and immigrated to Stockton when he was 9. At school, bullies picked on him because of his physical condition - "kids would hit me and then take off running because they knew I couldn't chase after them" - and his difficulty with English. When he was in college, he lost his right leg to infection. Escrima, he says, is what gave him the confidence to stop the bullying, though it didn't start out that way. "I wanted to get even," says Bonjoc. "When I was younger, I used to get frustrated, and all somebody had to say was that word, 'cripple,' and the next thing I know, I'm swinging. All the martial arts goes out the window, and I'm just swinging. But over the years, because of the discipline I gained from the martial arts training, I got away from all that. I didn't have to be vengeful." The way Bonjoc learned escrima is typical of how the martial art form developed: passed down from father to child in an oral tradition. It's because of this lack of early documentation that the origins of escrima, and its aliases (eskrima, arnis and kali), can vary from Indonesian martial arts to Chinese mariners to Spanish conquistadors. What is clear, however, is that a centuries-old fighting style did develop before Spanish colonialism, and it was indigenous to the Philippines. Bonjoc says escrima is most notable for its ability to use the same fighting moves either with or without a weapon and for the weapons themselves. There are only two types: sticks and knives. Bonjoc is a fourth-generation escrima master who's traveled the world as a guru as well as on the tournament circuit. His family's system, Cadiz Lapu-Lapu, is named in honor of Bonjoc's great-grandfather, who settled the town of Cadiz, and Chief Lapulapu, the Philippine hero who killed Portuguese navigator Ferdinand Magellan. Cadiz Lapu-Lapu is just one of many styles. Considering that the Philippines is a nation of 7,100 islands, and that villages developed their own ways to defend themselves that they then handed down, there are innumerable escrima systems. Though he has his own school in Stockton, Mata sa Bagyo (or Eye of the Storm), he travels to San Jose's De Anza Park every other Sunday to help a buddy teach escrima. It's only fitting that Bonjoc chose October, which is Filipino American History Month, to focus on promoting escrima. "It's handed down from generation to generation, and if we don't continue to do that, it will be lost." He's getting a boost from mainstream media as well: the History Channel's "Human Weapon" recently devoted an episode to escrima. The show's Web site also lists escrima along with Muay Thai and judo under its martial art disciplines. TV and YouTube won't be the only places to see escrima, though. Bonjoc's dream is to form a nonprofit and travel the nation as a motivational speaker with a team of disabled martial artists. "I'm here to help educate people not just about the Filipino culture and the Filipino martial arts culture, but also to understand that we all have differences and just because somebody is different from you physically or mentally, that doesn't mean that person is not a human being. "That person has a worth, and they have creativity, and if you just look close enough, you will see that and you will see that person for who he is." --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Sulong, It's Been Good to Know You OR Mushtaq's Merry Marauders To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:13:43 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Competition has always been a bit of an issue for Silat players. On > one hand, and no disrespect meant to the efforts of IPSI in making a > competitive sport, it can turn into something that just isn't Silat > any more. I viewed a video of the silat world championships, not sure which year it took place. Looked mostly like a bad Taekwondo match with a little "chicken strutting" in between clashes. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest