Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:48:21 +0100 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 14 #340 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2500 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: video clip: knife vs just grappling (Glenn Timmons) 2. A Question about Rapido Realisimo (gogogomez@optonline.net) 3. silat workshop (Tom Howanic) 4. Re: video clip: knife vs just grappling (Czar Peralta) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:52:51 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Timmons Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife vs just grappling To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Czar, relax your missing the point..think about it. ----- Original Message ---- From: Guro T.C. To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:50:05 PM Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife vs just grappling To show me how to stab someone IF they take me down. C'mon man!! LOL!! --- Czar Peralta wrote: > Agreed. But how "informative" was it really? I think > it was purely > entertaining. What do you think the point of that > video was? ....to show > that grappling doesn't work against a knife wielding > assailant? ...or to > show you how to stab someone if they take you down? > LOL > > ~Czar Peralta > > On Nov 30, 2007 3:06 PM, Guro T.C. > wrote: > > > Informative. My question is this. Why would you > be > > stationary in front of someone with a knife? > > Additionally, why would you not be moving to > minimize > > your damage and maximize you positioning? What > > happened to "fluidity of motion", a staple in the > > FMAs? There's still no guarantee that you will > > survive a knife attack but at least attack what's > > attacking you. > > > > I tell my students all the time "If you don't want > to > > get cut or stabbed don't get into a knife fight". > We > > all know the ultimate goal from any attack is > > survival. When you're empty handed and in a > > confrontation with a knife wielding aggressor, you > > don't try to "scoop" him and wrestle with him. He > > didn't even go for his knife hand. > > > > Like I said, informative, but not realistic. > > Thoughts? > > > > --- Jye nigma wrote: > > > > > Check out this video: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izDQwDT_ERg&feature=related > > > > > > Jye > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow > you > > > with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > > > Resource > > > Standard disclaimers apply > > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guy "T.C." Jones > > Owner/Head Instructor > > Cedar Hill Martial Arts Center > > 310 E. Parkerville Rd (Cedar Hill Rec Center) > > Cedar Hill Tx, 75104 > > > > See Grandmaster Anding de Leon and Guro T.C. Jones > at www.arnisdeleon.com > > > > "When a leopard dies he leaves his skin...a man > his reputation." > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > Guy "T.C." Jones Owner/Head Instructor Cedar Hill Martial Arts Center 310 E. Parkerville Rd (Cedar Hill Rec Center) Cedar Hill Tx, 75104 See Grandmaster Anding de Leon and Guro T.C. Jones at www.arnisdeleon.com "When a leopard dies he leaves his skin...a man his reputation." _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:55:54 +0000 (GMT) From: gogogomez@optonline.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] A Question about Rapido Realisimo Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi FMA people, Does anyone know Punong Guro Henry Espera of the Rapido Realisimo Kali school in Cavite,Philippines???He also teaches in Manila. Has anyone studied with him??? You can write to me privately at gogogomez@optonline.netSalamat,Carlos Gomez [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of gogogomez.vcf; charset=us-ascii] --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Tom Howanic" To: Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:55:40 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] silat workshop Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net BaHad ZuBu of Texas is proud to present; Guru Eric Kruk & The Fighting Arts of West Sumatra Baringinsakti Pencak Silat, harimau Pasaman, Minangkabau Harimau is defined as "tiger" in Indonesia. The Harimau exponent, on the ground, tigerlike, has five foundations-his two feet, two hands, and his back which can be an advantage against his opponent who only has 2 feet for standing. In executing the ground tactics, the Harimau fighter find his legs most important. Postures, body movement, attack and defense tactics, all depend on strong and flexible legs. The Harimau fighter possessed of exceptional developed legs. This style is deceptive and many an upright attacker is surprised by quick defeat. The ground-hugging Harimau fighter is evasive and clever. The speed and power of his legs and feet can demolish an ordinary upright defense. Premier Martial Arts 920 Pat Booker Road Universal City Texas 78148 February 23 & 24, 2008 10:00 am - 2:00 pm $150.00 at the door for both days $90.00 for one day. $125.00 RSVP, payed in advance Contacts; Punong Guro Mike Blackgrave 210-547-0498 bahadzubuusa@yahoo.com Guru Kruks website www.baringinsakti-silat.com Come with an open mind and prepared to train. No filming at Guru Kruks request, still pictures ok. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 08:35:09 -0800 From: "Czar Peralta" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife vs just grappling Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net jus jokin. I get it... Grappling is not the tool you want to pull out from your toolbox in a situation like that. If that's all you have, you're SOL. But I think that's common sense. On 11/30/07, Glenn Timmons wrote: > Czar, relax your missing the point..think about it. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Guro T.C. > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:50:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] video clip: knife vs just grappling > > > To show me how to stab someone IF they take me down. > C'mon man!! LOL!! > --- Czar Peralta wrote: > > > Agreed. But how "informative" was it really? I think > > it was purely > > entertaining. What do you think the point of that > > video was? ....to show > > that grappling doesn't work against a knife wielding > > assailant? ...or to > > show you how to stab someone if they take you down? > > LOL > > > > ~Czar Peralta > > > > On Nov 30, 2007 3:06 PM, Guro T.C. > > wrote: > > > > > Informative. My question is this. Why would you > > be > > > stationary in front of someone with a knife? > > > Additionally, why would you not be moving to > > minimize > > > your damage and maximize you positioning? What > > > happened to "fluidity of motion", a staple in the > > > FMAs? There's still no guarantee that you will > > > survive a knife attack but at least attack what's > > > attacking you. > > > > > > I tell my students all the time "If you don't want > > to > > > get cut or stabbed don't get into a knife fight". > > We > > > all know the ultimate goal from any attack is > > > survival. When you're empty handed and in a > > > confrontation with a knife wielding aggressor, you > > > don't try to "scoop" him and wrestle with him. He > > > didn't even go for his knife hand. > > > > > > Like I said, informative, but not realistic. > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > --- Jye nigma wrote: > > > > > > > Check out this video: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izDQwDT_ERg&feature=related > > > > > > > > Jye > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow > > you > > > > with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > > > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > > > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > > > > Resource > > > > Standard disclaimers apply > > > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guy "T.C." Jones > > > Owner/Head Instructor > > > Cedar Hill Martial Arts Center > > > 310 E. Parkerville Rd (Cedar Hill Rec Center) > > > Cedar Hill Tx, 75104 > > > > > > See Grandmaster Anding de Leon and Guro T.C. Jones > > at www.arnisdeleon.com > > > > > > "When a leopard dies he leaves his skin...a man > > his reputation." > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > > Resource > > > Standard disclaimers apply > > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > > Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > > > > Guy "T.C." Jones > Owner/Head Instructor > Cedar Hill Martial Arts Center > 310 E. Parkerville Rd (Cedar Hill Rec Center) > Cedar Hill Tx, 75104 > > See Grandmaster Anding de Leon and Guro T.C. Jones at > www.arnisdeleon.com > > "When a leopard dies he leaves his skin...a man his reputation." > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. 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