Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:48:22 +0100 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #26 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re: background check of a student (Ray) 2. Bad people trying to learn FMA (loki) 3. Re: Re: background check of a student (Ramon Espinosa) 4. Re: FMA groups in South Georgia/No. Florida area (sam deGalicia) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: background check of a student To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:39:58 -0800 (PST) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > i dont know about doing background check of a martial arts student. i have > been to jail. Maybe you wouldn't have qualified... But the good thing about a background check is that you can see when something occurred. Someone that did something 15 or 20 years ago is one thing. Someone that did it last year is another. IMHO Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:10:38 -0500 From: loki To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Bad people trying to learn FMA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Message: 4 > From: "Hironaka" > To: > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:05:02 -0800 > Subject: [Eskrima] Bad people trying to learn FMA > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > I can't let this go unchallenged. > > "The bad guys certainly know as much or more than most of us when it > comes to hurting people. Are we talking about offensive knife skills? The > pointy end goes into the other guy, repeat till he stops twitching. > There are countless inmates and ex-inmates all over the world that have > the knowledge and most notable the real life experience of using a > blade on someone else. > They have even been known to study anatomy books to learn the best > targets. > > I'd also wager most FMA instructors have never and will never be in a > fight with blades of any type, and as such are merely dealing with > martial theory. The bad people do not have time for theories. They need to > do their business as fast and effortlessly as they can. And the best way > to learn that is from someone who has really done it." > > > Really? If you truly believe this, why bother studying a martial art? If > criminals are able to figure out an equal or more effective way to fight, > why waste your time, money, and effort? Certainly, the martial arts world > is full self promoting fakes, charlatans, and phony tough guys. This is why > the phrase buyer beware is so important. As far as I know, Guro Dan > Inosanto has never stuck a knife into anybody, but I trust what he says with > my life. > > What makes a successful criminal so dangerous is they have the predator > mindset. They have learned the art of target acquisition. Cull the weak > from the herd and attack out of nowhere with ruthless overwhelming force. > > To quote Phil Mesina, "The only thing a predator fears is another predator." > > Joe Hironaka > > You know what? I do. I really truly believe it. You can't let it go unchallenged? Why is that? It's only an opinion, it happens to be mine so I like it. However it's certainly not a challenge. Why do I personally study? I love the martial arts, and see them as a means of personal self improvement. If I was only concerned with hurting people, I would not bother learning martial arts. As far as Guro Dan Inosanto goes I'd tend to trust his opinion. But it would still be a theory till proven otherwise. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:54:57 -0800 From: "Ramon Espinosa" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: background check of a student Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I didn't catch the begining of this, but I think one reason for it might not be for violent offenses or possession/drug related offenses, but more for those in sexual offenses. Such as a Rapist or Child Molestor. People do make mistakes in their lives and you can be sent to jail for a felony that can be considered minor in comparison to other instances. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth. On 1/30/08, Ray wrote: > > > i dont know about doing background check of a martial arts student. i > have > > been to jail. > > Maybe you wouldn't have qualified... > > But the good thing about a background check is that you can see when > something occurred. Someone that did something 15 or 20 years ago is one > thing. Someone that did it last year is another. > > IMHO > > Ray Terry > rterry@idiom.com > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:10:44 -0800 (PST) From: sam deGalicia Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA groups in South Georgia/No. Florida area To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Orlando is about a 3 hour drive from the Georgia/Florida border. I believe there is a Derobio Style in Fernandina Beach. Unsure of exact location though. (Fernandina Beach is the 2nd exit from the Georgia/Florida state line. If you are interested, let me know and I'll do some homework.... ----- Original Message ---- From: Sonny Padilla To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:15:05 PM Subject: RE: [Eskrima] FMA groups in South Georgia/No. Florida area Ama Guro Raffy Pambuan is in Orlando, if interested contact me privately for his contact number. His PAL techniques might be of interest to all LEO's. Sonny Padilla> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:40:04 -0600> From: marc.lawrence@ngc.com> To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Subject: [Eskrima] FMA groups in South Georgia/No. Florida area> > To All,> One my students has been sent for the next 3 months to the Federal LEO> academy and wants to continue training and working out in FMA. Does> anyone know of anybody in the South Georgia/North Florida area?> Salamat Po> Guro Marc> PAKAMUT-Torrance> _______________________________________________> Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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