Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:48:24 +0100 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #30 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Who to teach? (bgdebuque) 2. Ambush/stealth attacks (billlowery@tinyonline.co.uk) 3. Re: Ambush/stealth attacks (adam babb) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 00:26:36 -0500 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Who to teach? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Would you have been willing to teach the late George FMA? It appears that he was not an Islamo-Fascist at all.... =[:->] For the record: *"George Habash* (Arabic: *جورج حبش*‎) also known by his kunya "*al-Hakim*" (Arabic:الحكيم — *the wise one* or *the doctor*) (August 2, 1926 – January 26, 2008), was a Palestinian political leader, activist, and physician. Habash, a Palestinian Christian, founded the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and was the organization's Secretary-General until 2000. In 1970, Habash masterminded the hijackings of four Western airliners over the United States, Europe, the Far East and the Persian Gulf. The aircraft were blown up, although the passengers and crews were allowed to disembark. Habash was also behind the hijacking of an Air France airliner to Entebbe, Uganda and a terrorist attack on Israel's Lod airport in which 27 people were shot to death. Forty-seven people were killed in the bombing of a Swissair jet in 1970." --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:17:41 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "billlowery@tinyonline.co.uk" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Ambush/stealth attacks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Just yesterday I saw a clip posted by an instructor of a reputable system wherein he showed great skill in killing combinations on an unarmed man with the knife. < Hi Marc, Some time ago a "new" FMA system was introduced into the UK. Myself and a number of instructors I know didn't go to the first seminar due to its proximity to Christmas (2 weeks) cost (آ£100 for one day) and the fact that the system appeared to be selling itself based on its use in a hollywood film. A couple of years later I was talking to one of the instructors who had not gone. He had been "converted" to the sysem due to the fact that it was an "assassins" art. The art was based around stealth draws and attacks. The instructor had that shiny eyed look of someone who had seen the light. The overall impression I was left with was the marketing had been designed to appeal to 14 year old boys, who wear combat pants and play video games! Apprarently the first hour of the most recent seminar had been given over to explaining why the full rig (to carry ALL of the training knives) should be bought rather than acquiring it piecemeal. I have no wish to assassinate anyone. I am interested, firstly, in being able to protect myself against a knife wielding attacker, not earn some money on the side taking out for the guy with the big bucks ;- ) So to answer one of your questions; why is he putting the clip on the internet? It seems to me to simply impress the kids. Bill __________________________________________________ Get up to آ£150 by recycling your old mobile - visit www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:28:17 -0800 (PST) From: adam babb Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Ambush/stealth attacks To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net abush and stelth atacks are only needed in in combat zones otherwise there is no need to teech them adam --- "billlowery@tinyonline.co.uk" wrote: > >Just yesterday I saw a clip posted by an instructor > of a reputable > system wherein he showed great skill in killing > combinations on an > unarmed man with the knife. < > > Hi Marc, > > Some time ago a "new" FMA system was introduced > into the UK. Myself > and a number of instructors I know didn't go to the > first seminar due > to its proximity to Christmas (2 weeks) cost (£100 > for one day) and the > fact that the system appeared to be selling itself > based on its use in > a hollywood film. > > A couple of years later I was talking to one of > the instructors who > had not gone. He had been "converted" to the sysem > due to the fact that > it was an "assassins" art. The art was based around > stealth draws and > attacks. The instructor had that shiny eyed look of > someone who had > seen the light. > > The overall impression I was left with was the > marketing had been > designed to appeal to 14 year old boys, who wear > combat pants and play > video games! Apprarently the first hour of the most > recent seminar had > been given over to explaining why the full rig (to > carry ALL of the > training knives) should be bought rather than > acquiring it piecemeal. > > I have no wish to assassinate anyone. I am > interested, firstly, in > being able to protect myself against a knife > wielding attacker, not > earn some money on the side taking out for the guy > with the big bucks ;- > ) > > So to answer one of your questions; why is he > putting the clip on > the internet? It seems to me to simply impress the > kids. > > Bill > > > > __________________________________________________ > Get up to £150 by recycling your old mobile - visit > www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! 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