Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:48:21 +0100 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #37 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2500 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: training in the rain/environmental training (bgdebuque) 2. Re: Re: How does you art translate to Empty Hands (adam babb) 3. RE: Defensor Method College Newspaper Article (mpc60) 4. Commandments of Steel (jay de leon) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:58:22 -0500 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] training in the rain/environmental training Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Now, that is what I call TRAINING! Interestingly, I once came accross a claim that the best non-firearm weapon for trench-clearing operations was not the sabre, bayonet or rifle butt. It was the trenching tool (aka. the folding shovel). It appears that one two-handed headshot of the trenching tool is enough to bring a man down - even if he is wearing a helmet. > Message: 3 > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] training in the rain/environmental training > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:28:57 +0200 > From: > To: > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Three month ago we test trench environment in Helsinki, Finland. > > Some photos from the sparring session. > http://www.pekiti-tirsia.fi/photos.htm > > Pick the last category - All Saints' Day sparring in the trench 2007 > > Sorry, no polar bears around. > > -jussi- --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 09:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: adam babb Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: How does you art translate to Empty Hands To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Stick, knife, and empty hand technique all translate example a slashing attack to neck area can translate to a hammer fist to the same area. A thrust translates into punch and so on. Most stick and knife toques are the same --- maurice gatdula wrote: > in our style we do not use the stick as a knife, or > the hand as a stick, or the stick as a arm. i > believe that a stick, is a stick, a knife is a knife > and a hand is a hand. > > even the angle of a cut will be different than the > angle of a stick strike to the neck. and both of > them will be different than a punch to the neck. the > damage is different, and you cannot defend or > counter each of them the same way. > > but each one will help develop your skill in the > other, and this is true because each one requires a > different kind of strength, timing and distance > awareness. when you do weapons it makes you a better > hands fighter, and when you can fight with your > hands, it makes you a better weapon fighter. > > the way you train can also help you develop as a > fighter in a different way. if you do, pointfighting > with the stick, it develops one part of your skill, > your first attack, and the way you answer a first > attack. if you fight full contact it develops your > pain tolerance, your endurance, and the way you > handle your power, even how you handle your > opponents power. if you do bag work (weapon or empty > hand) it will develop your ability to attack away > from prearrange stuff. you can do focus mitt > training and sparring to develop your counter > attackings and defense. but how you train on the bag > with hands is very different than how you pound with > a stick in your hand. with a stick you rely more on > your footwork, because opponents move more. with the > fist, the opponent moves, but in smaller distances. > and then if we are talking about a knife, there is > very little exchange back and forth like a fight > fight. but each one makes you better, and helps you > becomemore skilled at the > other. > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --__--__-- Message: 3 From: mpc60 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Defensor Method College Newspaper Article Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:55:11 -0500 To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree with Mike, just a few weeks ago in a parking lot not too far from where I live a character high on drugs and alchohol tried to start a situation with me. I kept my cool and simply talked to him in a calm manner. This in turn calmed him down and I was able to keep him calm until the police arrived. Although many scenarios/techniques played out in my head I thought about how this guy could get hurt or worse and likewise for myself. I kept my distance and my hands up in defensive, but non threatening, manner the whole time. This may not be the answer for every situation but a good martial artist should understand the use of force is not always the first option. I believe Bruce said it best, My style is the "art of fighting without fighting". Karl Swass -----Original Message----- From: Mike Casto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:38 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Defensor Method College Newspaper Article I actually had a situation where walking up and saying "hello" worked out for me ... well, I said more than "hello." What I actually said was something along the lines of, "Hey man! Long time no see! Dude, it's been what? 3 years? We met at that party ... what a night! We'll have to get together again sometime. Give me a call." His attitude immediately went from one of a predator sizing up potential prey to one of "What the heck? This guy knows me? Did we ..." It completely spun him away from his predatory mindset and forced him to shift gears. It was a calculated risk and not something I would advocate ... but in that space/time it worked for me. I have a friend up in Chicago who was accosted by a knife wielding assailant screaming things like, "Give me your money, man! I'll cut you!" Joe, my friend, took a moment then said, very enthusiastically, "Man! That is a nice knife! That's one of the nicest knives I've ever seen. Can I look at it." He extended his hand ... and the guy gave him the knife. In case this story sounds familiar, Joe discussed it in an article he wrote for Inside Kung Fu last year. Anyway ... I wouldn't recommend these types of things as "first line defenses" but it's good to keep them in mind as plausible alternatives if the situation reads for it. Mike _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:26:31 -0800 (PST) From: jay de leon To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Commandments of Steel Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net With your indulgence, I would like to post this announcement for my friend Bram Frank. For those who know me, there is no need for this disclaimer. Regarding the Middle East, I have no political agenda. I am simply and unabashedly pro-peace, pro-martial arts and proud to be an American citizen of Filipino descent. Jay de Leon www.filipinofightingartsintl.com Commandments of Steel April 4-5-6, 2008 is the 10th Commandments of Steel. The Commandments are the brain child of Guy Rafaeli who foresaw the event becoming one of the premier Knife Counter knife training camps in the world. Soon Yuval Nechamkin a dedicated Serrada and Kung Fu artist joined the Israel CSSD team. Through their efforts the Commandments grew each year. Over the years the Commandments have become not only one of the world's best Knife Counter Knife training camps but a place to meet, eat and train but to remember our friends. The Commandments of Steel are forever dedicated to Gadi, one of our own whose passing was untimely and unseen. May his knives always be sharp and the memory of Gadi always be strong in us. GM Bram Frank the current Black Belt Magazine Hall of Fame Weapons Instructor of the Year 2007 and the Founder of CSSD-Modular Knife Blade work will be teaching MODULAR Tactical Knife Counter Knife responses as well as related Filipino blade work. The late Professor Remy Presas the Founder of Modern Arnis and Bram's instructor was the Black Belt Magazine 1994 Weapons Instructor of the Year. Bram was just named the Father Of Israeli Knife Combatives in Israel this past December...@ a ceremony with DR Dennis Hanover: Father of Israeli Martial Art Survival Fighting as seen on the Human Weapon show by National Geographic. Come train with Bram in the Holy Land for intensive Knife counter knife work that you will learn and take home with you. This training blends and adapts to any style of martial art and you need no previous training! Guest Instructor this year : GM Jimmy Tacosa of Tacosa Serrada Eskrima This year, as in a few years past we meet in Caesarea : Home of Augustus Caesar and Herod the Great… and of course the Rafaeli Family. Come celebrate and train @ the 10th Commandments of Steel. Our hosts Guy Rafaeli, Yuval Nechamkin , the CSSD Israeli Directors and the Commandments Director Noa Shermister-Nakash invite you to Israel for a great training experience. We will train for two official days, ( with a couple of extra training days as usual in the park!) and then travel to Massada, the Dead Sea, and then ending up in Jerusalem for an afternoon viewing of the Holy City and a spectacular viewing of Jerusalem @ night. Come be with us for the 10th Commandments of Steel. Camp includes one night, two days @ training camp ( Seaside resort in Caesarea) with meals and training and basic fuel charges to travel Israel on the tour. April 4-5 -6... $450 USD Not included is your basic stay in Tel Aviv..but help can be to set up stay -reservations @ the TAL HOTEL..our base in Tel Aviv..( near the beach) Food before and after the training camp itself.. Darren Davies the CSSD Director UK and Co EU Director can also give you insights into the COMMANDMNENTS of STEEL.. He is a veteran of several of the COMMANDMENTS. Darren Davies: darren@cssdsc.co.uk For Hotel info, Camp costs and other info...contact ASAP: Guy Rafaeli: drarms@zahav.net.il Yuval Nechamkin: yuvalarnis@gmail.com Noa Shermister-Nakash : arnisbaby@gmail.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest