Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:48:21 +0100 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #61 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Re: RE: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #59 - Teaching and fighting with FMA (Tyler Murphy) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:03:50 -0800 (PST) From: Guru Mike Casto Subject: Re: [Eskrima] RE: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #59 - Teaching and fighting with FMA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net While providing our own backgrounds is beneficial to the discussions, providing specifics on what we consider "bad" schools/instructors is potentially rife with problems in this medium. If someone from a "bad" school gets online and finds the discussion then we will almost certainly have a heated discussion here ... and that's just an annoying distraction. And that's the best case scenario. The worst case scenario could potentially involve lawsuits for slander. In a discussion like this thread, it's far better to give guidelines for or even specific examples that don't name names. This provides data that people can use to calibrate their "McDojo meter" (more commonly known by a less PC name :-) Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: "DeLeon, Oliver" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 11:13:26 PM Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #59 - Teaching and fighting with FMA Hi, I have been studying Filipino Martial arts for 1.5 year now and got permission from my guru to start teaching, as one of you mentioned I had to prove that I new certain concepts and techniques before passing my test. After I passed my test my guru has allow me to teach the class under his supervision and although I'm a guru now, it feels like I need a lot of experience teaching. You can claim that you know certain concepts and techniques but that doesn't mean that you know how to perform them. One thing I learned is that by teaching other under my guru's supervision I've learned a lot more then by just practicing the art. Has anybody used Filipino Martial arts to defend them selves? I realized that by learning this art (Cerrada Eskrima) the fights should not last more then 10 sec. or so. Do you agree? Specially against someone untrained. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:20:38 -0800 (PST) From: Kim Satterfield To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: our backgrounds Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, Jut to clarify a point in my student Brandon's post, although I knew the late Suro Mike Inay very well, and was most fortunate to have trained with him personally several times over my 31 years in Inayan Eskrima, the bulk of my training came under Senior Inayan Guros Garry Bowlds, Alan McLuckie, Ben Berry, and my main teacher, Rob McDonald. I am most humbly grateful to these fine Eskrimadors for the knowledge that they gave me, and the endless patience they displayed in teaching this often obnoxious and difficult lefty, and treasure the art that they generously passed on to me. Guro Rob especially has been the most responsible for instilling in me the warrior spirit that I try to pass on to my students at the Midwest School of Eskrima, and we strive to carry on his vision. Kim Satterfield Chief Instructor Midwest School of Eskrima -- __--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 03:53:16 -0800 (PST) From: B Katz Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Fakes and Mcdojos and where I'm coming from To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Just checking in with my background. I began my martial studies at 15 in an EXTREMELY traditional Okinawan Isshin-ryu school in the Metro Detroit area. Most students didn't last much longer than a few months. My introduction in eskrima began a few years back with my introduction to Guro Alan McLuckie and his senior (at that time) student. I have since moved on to becoming a full member of the Midwest School of Eskrima studying with Guro Kim Satterfield. The MSE is an "individual expression" of eskrima from the Inayan tradition. My Guro and my Guro's Guro both studied with Suro Mike Inay. We are a band of brothers that hit each other hard. No fear of litigation, no trips to the ER, unless its REALLY necessary. I TRUST my training partners with my life, my money AND my wife. (A joke for you old Marines out there...) And, yeah... I still have problems with anything mass produced or sanitized for your comfort, particularly neutered martial arts. Our art has a bloody history, trained and taught by some of the toughest men that you would care to meet for the purpose of saving their lives in war and protecting those near and dear to them. This is a tradition not lost on me. www.eskrimacustoms.com Fine hand-crafted hardwood bastons and training knives -- __--__-- In the words of the late, great John Belushi, "Wise Up" --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:02:24 -0800 (PST) From: Tyler Murphy Subject: Re: [Eskrima] RE: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #59 - Teaching and fighting with FMA To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Guru Mike, I thought you were going to the philippines with Guru Ken and Guru Steve. Did you not go? Tyler ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. 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