Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:48:21 +0100 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #70 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Stickball Bats? (alan stewart) 2. Re: if it was true... (Ray) 3. Re: if it was true... (WoodyTX) 4. MC dojo/FMA in Philippines/ForeignFMA (GatPuno@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:30:09 -0700 (PDT) From: alan stewart Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Stickball Bats? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I've been cuttin up some stick bats to serrada-length sticks. They're great! Cheap and durable. Don't use the bats that are colored. The paints stains your training partner's sticks. I just use the plain ones. Alan in Southold, NY. Herb wrote: I have used these and I like them for building strength and speed. They are also very good for tire workouts. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [Eskrima] Stickball Bats? > Anyone ever trained with one of these bats? The 32" looks like it > would be good. > > http://www.barnstablebat.com/stickbats.html > > > K. Williams > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net test'; "> --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] if it was true... Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:40:13 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Back home, we were never told names for the techniques, locks that > we were > learning. OLD MAN says, "WE ONLY CALL OUR LOCKS, "BAD LUCK". Or the line about "the Swan block"... The new Eskrima student comes home and his friend asks him what they learned that evening. He replies, we learned the Swan block. The Swan Block...!!! Turns out the old instructor was really saying (with an accent), "if they do this, you do this one block"... Ray "give it time to sink in" Terry EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:29:24 -0500 From: WoodyTX To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] if it was true... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Is that like the two-handed DE-ma GEE-oh strike? Turns out the instructor was trying to say, "DiMaggio". ;-) http://www.joedimaggio.com/ Accents are fun; on a recent trip to Ireland, I think we mispronounced about 70% of the place names we saw. Woody On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Ray wrote: > > Back home, we were never told names for the techniques, locks that > > we were > > learning. OLD MAN says, "WE ONLY CALL OUR LOCKS, "BAD LUCK". > > > Or the line about "the Swan block"... > > The new Eskrima student comes home and his friend asks him what they > learned that evening. He replies, we learned the Swan block. The > Swan Block...!!! > > Turns out the old instructor was really saying (with an accent), "if > they do this, you do this one block"... > > Ray "give it time to sink in" Terry > EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net --__--__-- Message: 4 From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:16:13 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] MC dojo/FMA in Philippines/ForeignFMA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello Everyone, After few months that I am out of touch from everyone, and probably Kapatid Jay de Leon, Kapatid Jorge Penafiel, thought I am ignoring them already. I want to acknowledge them first, I read all of your note, just dont have much time to chat a bit at the time. Besides working as full time Chef @ Dolphin Stadium, I also took a part time teaching as Chef Instructor in Le Cordon Bleu College of Culinary Arts Miami. But I still hold my regular Arnis class on Monday, Tuesday and Wedensday night. Sorry for not being active lately, but the current "topic" get my attention back in to it. Well, all of what said had point, oppinion is being given although majorly negative. In the other hand we also look at the Mc Dojo's positive sides. If we think that they cant fight, we dont know that, we need to fight them to find out. Positively, they help us propagate the arts, sadly to say, some of them really "sad" arts. Dont get me wrong I want them to walk to the talk too, but not this way, we can attack them in more civil way, "Tournament" now is being offer by various you call it Mc Dojo fmarts. Did you guys even watch them handle there tournaments? Or even joined their tournaments? If not join them and test your skill to the Mc Dojo students. May be some of them cant fight but what happen if they can fights, then you playing hipocritical comment in the public forum, but your comments, does not mean anything, since you are not naming those groups that you are calling mc dojo, why to be politically correct huh? How they can defend themselves if you are attacking them behind there back? It seems toi me you are hiding behind your key boards to attack this groups. I am and still is openlly challege the practitioner or the Head of the system that I feel full of you know what? But I addressed them as they what to be addressed. I was not raised and trained in Arnis just to advocate negative metality. I open challenge practitioner, I call them in their name and not some sort of "aka" just to sound like I am tough guy. Be honest, we dont do nothing and acquired nothing to do this. I agree that a lot of them is just too annoying to watch, but hey if you get annoyed by them, this show that their getting on you. Clearly showing you are losing grip to your cool. In regards of Resume in MA, an instructor or MA instructor in order to get more student means money need this. If you are applying for a job, you need your back ground check, before you were hired, I believed the same way in MA school, they are paying top dollar for the rent, lights, water and miscelaneous materials, if no students where he will get the money to pay for all of this? We are being rediculous if we are attacking their business strategic tools. For this reason, I left all the Dojo that I used to teach, is not easy to collect the dues, specially at the end of the month, when your rent is dues too, water, electric, etc. So I have to give them my respect for being a succesful fma Instructor and able to maintain the school and get audience from what he is advocating. In regard of the practioner that saying the old folk in the Philippines dont give name of the techniques in Arnis, I guess my question is back to them. Who did you study with? who ever you learned with, your instructor is not a traditional Eskrimadores/Arnisadores, why?. One of the reason is, why we still hearing the Serrada, Sumbrada, Reteradas, Payong, Abaniko, Sunkite, and more, it is becaused it was used to a particular techniques used in Arnis and Eskrima. So what? if other instructor had more student that we do? This does not mean they are far better fighter than us, but I have to admid they are better business man than us. Okay you said, or you think that they don't have templates the traditonal Arnis, Eskrima before? Well what are we call pattern, numbering, numerado, what else, its nogt English term but it refers the same thing Templates or numbering, or organized sequesces. Templates is being used already by traditonal Arnisadores, way back in 1610 for the records, "Moro-moro" players used them for their plays. I assume you dont trained the way the old Eskrimadores does, then you are part of this what you called not so what? In regards of the FMA other MA, I cant stop laughing Kapatid Jorge and Kapatid Jay, if we go back home, we call many names in other so called Filipino street fighting.. Batotak Kung-fu, (bato at Takbo), or throw a rock and run, Upakbo (Sucker punch and run), Nay-Tay (Mom and Dad style) calling Mom and Dad defense, about the art of 1-2-3 (Count to 3 and run), the point is, as we laughing this may have a value to some of us too, so is nice to know some this arts, it might save your life someday. Okay, till next post, Sa muli, (till next), Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Garimot Arnis Training Group International Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA Tel. 954-432-4433 www.garimot.com ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. 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