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Re: the subject of "masters (Rich Acosta) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:45:10 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] No need to apologized Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 3/25/08 5:00:11 PM, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > Dear Master Baet and list, > > I want to apologize for my last post. I see that it went to the whole list. > I thought I was sending it off list and did not intend for everyone to read > it. Again, my apologies. I do respect Master Baet's opinions, even in > instances where we disagree. > > Grace and Peace, > Rez > Dear Mr. Rez, No apology needed. I'm a grown up man. You can dis-agree with me anytime, you feel that I crossing the line. This is what I do everytime I feel that someone is crossing the lines. I always remember that I am not alone in this list, and every post is adressed to the list, unless is I named the person. I am not here to convinced everyone to agree with me, I am here like you and other member to learn from others. We mihgt not agree to each other but we are learning from it. As you mentioned that we always student, you are absolutely right. Till the day that we died that is the only time we can rest our opinion to ourselves. If you post a question, garannteed that you will get answer, it might not the answer you want to hear or read, but you will get them. In my life I always speak my mind, I am not one of those "Filipino" master that graduated from Universities, or well known Colleges. Dont have a Diploma nor graduates in High School or Colleges. I attained only 2nd year high school, took GED and passed, took two vocational courses and graduate with honor ( i think I did well) at least to someone poor like me in the Philippines. But in the field that I took, is not necessarily English is "Gramatically" correct, as long I can do the job. But I am working on my English (dont know if It will get any better anytime soon). I become a Professional Chef by trades and recieved a lots of awards in cooking, but my cooking not necessary to be expert in English proper also, but I was told that I am very good speaker/well here we go " I realized" I can talk. English might be one of my "Qualities", but I know Eskrima my whole life. Born from a family of Eskrimadores, is not only 7-3:30 things, is 24/7 things for us. I grow up in the farm/rice field and mountain that not one day my father and I dont talk about Eskrima (NO TV for us kids cant afford to buy then). Here in the US It took me few years before accepting Non-Filipino student under my wing. It becaused, I dont know how to controll my self when I teach, I am so used the old ways of applying the full force (pain) to my student and I was told that I can get sued by the American if I do that. For few years, I refused accepting non-Filipino students. Then I learned how to controll my self little by little, I secluded the techniques that need to show in more "one on one basis" and adjust the drills to stick hit only for now. Well, I was little sorry for my-self, knowing some readers having difficulties understading my post. But I recieved a lot of private e-mail telling me that my English is fine, and not to worry about my grammar. They show their interest of my thought, and I tahnk all of them. But I most need to tell you "Thank you" for telling me that I need to work on my grammar. Dont worry this is not reason for me to stop posting and speak my mind. I took this at learning process for me, unless everyone in this list can read "Tagalog" I assure you my Tagalog will be grammatically correct.. Just kidding, Here just for the arts, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Garimot Arnis Training Group International Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA Tel. 954-432-4433 www.garimot.com ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "jorge penafiel" To: Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:01:19 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Grammar/etc in ED Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Manong says: Grammar - lets put this on the table and see why in many occassions one reason why we get excited at times during some of our hot ED table topics discussions like this ' 'Master discord going on at the moment. Hopefully, we'll all understand and put this fault tacked in and not to be use as the lame spoiler for the fun of discussions and healthy exchanged of minds. OK?? First, put to mind that ED is a Open forum and been around 15 years according to my man" Ray. With the exceptions of some our esteemed members, myself am not a skilled or immaculate writer. Don't know about yourself and so you be judge. For most, at best I (we) try to present our thoughts in writing and as expected it's open to all, what comes next could either be an accolade or a direct tackle at imes. Expect as well to make mistakes (not intended) and forgiving to other's mistakes. In the beginning , I was hesitant to be in ED much more be involved but my pal Al Sardenas (Garimot) put the courage on me to do so. Thanks Al won't forget that time in Orlando!! Last, not an excuse but allow me to present something Filipino by one account. Remembered my initial days with Procter and Gamble, my Boss a Harvard PhD just would annihilate and virtually change my written reports due to syntax, grammar and redundancy (too much flowering words). Finally, I told him about us pinoys so he'd know where I'm coming. It's a "cultural" thing - although English is not our primary language, we are lots better in comparrison. The fact is, when most pinoys write in english, we generally gather our thoughts and words first in our native tongue then translate it to english. Well, sure enough that was the problem Hard to believe but most often Tagalog (PI National Lingo) words when translated to english could mean a lot of things. At times it's disastrous specially when a wrong word is used. So, off I went to Corporate writing course. To this day, writting still is not my forte,,so sorry, way things are for some and so the point I want to present here. What we have in ED is an excercise of our minds specially for FMA. I'ts great and lot's of learning. Let's all be on this together and if one see's something not to your liking - just ask for a re-clarification. We're all level headed men and an example of a True Eskrimadores... Geez,,,,ya all feel it !! Aawright!! Jorge Penafiel ==== --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:53:18 -0400 From: bgdebuque To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: Subject: [Eskrima] GM Angel L. Blancia Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The last time I saw Dodong Lim was back in 2004 when we had dinner at Kamayan Makati. As I understand it, he is now one of the accomplished practical shooters of Iloilo. A friend of mine in college was also from the Rodriguez clan of Tibiao. A neighbor and family friend of ours was a graduate of GM Angel's system back in the early or mid-60s. Maybe you belong to the same generation.... > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:12:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Talibung Antike > Subject: Re: Subject: [Eskrima] GM Angel L. Blancia > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Yes, you are right, live blades... thats our tradition! I hailed from > Tibiao and Dodong Lim's family are close family friend and relative on my > paternal grandmother side- the Espanola clan of Tibiao, will let him know > about you :-) --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:50:54 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] No need to apologized To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Kapatid Abon: Don't worry about the grammar. We read your posts not to learn English (thank goodness) but to learn from your vast knowledge and experience in arnis. I would take you up on your offer to write in Tagalog instead, but then those Filipino guys who went to the well-known Universities with their fancy English like Prof. Felipe Jocano might need a translator. Jay de Leon www.tipunan.com GatPuno@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/25/08 5:00:11 PM, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > Dear Master Baet and list, > > I want to apologize for my last post. I see that it went to the whole list. > I thought I was sending it off list and did not intend for everyone to read > it. Again, my apologies. I do respect Master Baet's opinions, even in > instances where we disagree. > > Grace and Peace, > Rez > Dear Mr. Rez, No apology needed. I'm a grown up man. You can dis-agree with me anytime, you feel that I crossing the line. This is what I do everytime I feel that someone is crossing the lines. I always remember that I am not alone in this list, and every post is adressed to the list, unless is I named the person. I am not here to convinced everyone to agree with me, I am here like you and other member to learn from others. We mihgt not agree to each other but we are learning from it. As you mentioned that we always student, you are absolutely right. Till the day that we died that is the only time we can rest our opinion to ourselves. If you post a question, garannteed that you will get answer, it might not the answer you want to hear or read, but you will get them. In my life I always speak my mind, I am not one of those "Filipino" master that graduated from Universities, or well known Colleges. Dont have a Diploma nor graduates in High School or Colleges. I attained only 2nd year high school, took GED and passed, took two vocational courses and graduate with honor ( i think I did well) at least to someone poor like me in the Philippines. But in the field that I took, is not necessarily English is "Gramatically" correct, as long I can do the job. But I am working on my English (dont know if It will get any better anytime soon). I become a Professional Chef by trades and recieved a lots of awards in cooking, but my cooking not necessary to be expert in English proper also, but I was told that I am very good speaker/well here we go " I realized" I can talk. English might be one of my "Qualities", but I know Eskrima my whole life. Born from a family of Eskrimadores, is not only 7-3:30 things, is 24/7 things for us. I grow up in the farm/rice field and mountain that not one day my father and I dont talk about Eskrima (NO TV for us kids cant afford to buy then). Here in the US It took me few years before accepting Non-Filipino student under my wing. It becaused, I dont know how to controll my self when I teach, I am so used the old ways of applying the full force (pain) to my student and I was told that I can get sued by the American if I do that. For few years, I refused accepting non-Filipino students. Then I learned how to controll my self little by little, I secluded the techniques that need to show in more "one on one basis" and adjust the drills to stick hit only for now. Well, I was little sorry for my-self, knowing some readers having difficulties understading my post. But I recieved a lot of private e-mail telling me that my English is fine, and not to worry about my grammar. They show their interest of my thought, and I tahnk all of them. But I most need to tell you "Thank you" for telling me that I need to work on my grammar. Dont worry this is not reason for me to stop posting and speak my mind. I took this at learning process for me, unless everyone in this list can read "Tagalog" I assure you my Tagalog will be grammatically correct.. Just kidding, Here just for the arts, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Garimot Arnis Training Group International Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA Tel. 954-432-4433 www.garimot.com ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:16:37 -0700 From: "Ron Balicki" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] The Sensei at the Los Angeles Asian Pacific Film Festival 5/4/08 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Everyone on the digest, I wanted to pass on a letter from my wife and myself. We made a movie called "The Sensei". We made it in to the Los Angeles Asian American Film Festival here is a copy of the press release. Thanks Ron Balicki "YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF AGAINST HATRED AND SELF-HATRED" Please join me at the WORLD PREMIERE of my first feature film THE SENSEI. Where at? The 24th LOS ANGELES ASIAN PACIFIC FILM FESTIVAL, on Sunday, May 4th, at 4:00pm. Hosted by Visual Communications (Tickets? Go to: www.vconline.org ) LOCATION: Directors Guild of America, 7920 Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90046 "I believe it is a film that will change hearts and minds and more importantly, save lives" —Thomas Howard Jr., Education Director, MATTHEW SHEPARD FOUNDATION. Synopsis: THE SENSEI is about a lonely gay teen named McClain growing up in a small town in Colorado during the dawn of the AIDS epidemic. Constantly the target of hate and bullying, after a near fatal beating by three school mates, he finds himself the secret student of a woman "sensei" named Karen who teaches him the martial ways to protect himself and the path to inner peace. But there are some lessons in life that don't come easy. CAST: KEITH DAVID ("CRASH, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT MARY") LOUIS MANDYLOR ("MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING, THE QUEST") D. LEE INOSANTO ("THE PRODIGY") MIKE OLASKEY ("3 NINJAS: HIGH NOON AT MEGA MOUNTAIN") TZI MA ("RUSH HOUR, ALPHA DOG") SAB SHIMONO ("SOUTHLAND TALES, WATERWORLD") EMILY KURODA ("GILMORE GIRLS") AND INTRODUCING MARK MCGRAW (SON OF BASEBALL ICON TUG MCGRAW, AND BROTHER OF COUNTRY SINGER TIM MCGRAW) ADDITIONAL CAST: GINA SCALZI, TIM LOUNIBOS MICHAEL YAMA, MICHAEL AUTERI BRYAN FRANK, AND MICHAEL HAKE. My movie mirrors the political and social struggles still happening today. With the recent murder of Lawrence King who lived in my area ( http://www.rememberinglawrence.org/) I am glad that I took the path to make this film despite the hardships and politics, my producers and myself endured. I was motivated to make my film years ago after the senseless murder of Matthew Shepard. Lawrence King's case only bears in mind the need to create more awareness about tolerance and diversity. I am happy to announce that THE SENSEI is endorsed by civil rights groups like the Matthew Shepard Foundation and the current Hate Crimes Bill Act- lead by Senators Ted Kennedy and Gordon Smith. I've also had contact with individuals from Human Rights Campaign, Simon Wiesenthal Center: Museum of Tolerance, and Rainbow Alley. However, as a Writer/Director/ Producer, the road to making THE SENSEI was not easy. THE SENSEI made international headline news in 2005 when the Associated Press got wind of our struggles. Two ultra conservative school districts (one of them that governed Columbine) would not allow us to film due to "questionable values" as one administrator stated. As I have always stated in the press, THE SENSEI is a movie about respect, tolerance and personal growth. Pretty good values to me. Hope to see you at the premiere! --D. Lee Inosanto --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tyler Murphy To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The last few posts I have been reading about FMA in all it's forms not being as popular as other arts kinda struck me as odd. In my own humble opinion (and I do mean humble as I do not have near the experience or knowledge of most on this board) it is for a very good reason that it is not as popular with "normal" people. Being a former infantry Marine with a few combat tours I bounced around from art to art until I met Guru Ken Pannell and his cadre of instructors in Dayton Ohio. He opened me up to a whole world of Martial Arts that I had never known existed even though I had years of training in other arts. I have since moved away and haven't seen him for some time but, what is interesting is what he taught has stuck with me. I practice what he taught me almost everyday. For awhile I asked myself why? I had learned several other arts and none had stuck with me as much as the FMA Guru Ken taught had or interested me as much. That is when I realized it takes a certain kind of person to practice FMA. It requires more of a person than normal arts do. A person has to have the warrior spirit alive and burning inside them or they will not last. Sure there is history and culture and many other beautiful things that go along with FMA if you so choose to study that route. But, down in the core, at least to me, lies a very simple system built for one purpose. To be the one standing after the battle. No matter where that battle may take place. That is my own humble 2 cents on the matter. Thank you gentlemen for having such a great board I have learned allot simply by listening to each of you talk to the other. Please keep it going. Tyler ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:39:37 -0400 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Michael Gallagher Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Qualities of a Master Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net At 01:42 PM 3/23/2008, you wrote: >By strict definition a master is a teacher, an instructor, but many >are and I think should be very humble about ever calling themselves a >master. > >The best ones I've known never thought of themselves as a master until >someone with a looonnnngggggg history and with great standing in the >art started to use that term when referring to them. A local Aikido instructor talked about his Iaido master who'd recently passed away and said, "His attitude was, 'I'm not here to teach you; I'm just training with you.'" That's a fantastic attitude for anyone to have. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "norris" To: Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:40:07 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Inosanto Seminar-Newport News VA 31May/1 June Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings All, Guro Inosanto will be in Newport News VA May 31 - June 1, 2008 Location: East Wind Academy of Martial Arts 13361 Warwick Blvd. Newport News, VA 23602 Time: 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM Cost $95.00 per person, per day. $170.00 per person, for 2 days if registration is received on or before May 17, 2008. After May 17, 2008, $110.00 per person, per day. $195.00 for 2 days. Register Today: INOSANTO ACADEMY Online: www.inosanto.com Call: (310) 578-7773 In Virginia: Norris Domangue (757) 988-0500 Email: ewa@widowmaker.com Absolutely No Video Or Audio Recording Permitted. Send Certified Check or Money Order to: Inosanto Academy of Martial Arts, 13428 Maxella Ave. #237 Marina Del Rey, CA 90292 --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Rich Acosta" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:21:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Eskrima] the subject of "masters Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net IMO a Master embodies all aspects of the style that he teaches, technically and philosophically. A student seeks to emulate his example. A Master of the FMA can be humble, this does not take away anything from his skill. It's not necessary to emulate the character traits of the Masters. We should adopt the best qualities of our teachers, but develop our character the however we see fit as individuals. While it is true that a Master doesn't necessarily have to be a good teacher (it helps though), a Master should be a good leader, always having his student's best interest in mind. Willing to put the needs of his group ahead of his own. Fighting ability is of the utmost importance as a Master of any martial art, but IMO this is not a license to seek to humble others for personal gain. Regards, Rich Acosta Kuntaw Kali Kruzada -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest