Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:48:21 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #127 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2500 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? (Ray) 2. Re: Serrado = Cerrado = Closed (Douglas) 3. Re: Cabales Serrada Escrima (Tom Howanic) 4. Re: Cabales Serrada Escrima (ILDEFONSO ODAL) 5. New stock of Hawaiian Eskrima sticks at our web store. (Karl Vorwerk) 6. Re: Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? (james jr. sy) 7. Re: Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? (james jr. sy) 8. Re: Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? (jo moran) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:49:14 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Of West Street, San Jose. GM T On May 15, 2008, at 3:43 PM, jay de leon wrote: > so serrada escrima is not quick at all? > > but GM T is still the fastest in the west? > is that west San Jose, or the western hemisphere? --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Douglas" To: Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:10:12 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Serrado = Cerrado = Closed Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I speak Castillian Spanish fluently (forgot to mention type) I speak spanish fluently and "Serrada" means It is closed, or is closed. Like the door is closed. The door is SERRADA. The bar is closed. The bar esta (is) SERRADA. but it's really with a C in like Cerrada. And it's usually in the masculine, so Cerrado. Doug -------------------------------------------------- From: "Douglas" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:07 PM To: Subject: Serrado = Cerrado = Closed > I speak spanish fluently and "Serrada" means > It is closed, or is closed. Like the door is closed. > The door is SERRADA. The bar is closed. The bar esta (is) SERRADA. but > it's really with a C in like Cerrada. And it's usually in the masculine, > so Cerrado. > > Doug > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Patrick Wilson" > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? > >> serrada itself means "to Close" eskrima "skirmish" >> --- Tom Howanic wrote: >> >>> ahhhhhhh. That's not an accurate translation. >>> Means "Closing Skirmish" >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members >>> Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >>> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts >>> Resource >>> Standard disclaimers apply >>> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members >> Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >> Standard disclaimers apply >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Tom Howanic" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Cabales Serrada Escrima Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:09:09 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yup. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" To: "Eskrima-Digest" Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:44 PM Subject: [Eskrima] Cabales Serrada Escrima > Angel [RIP] was the GM of CSE. > > His son Vincent is now the Grandmaster of CSE. > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: ILDEFONSO ODAL Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Cabales Serrada Escrima To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Highlander McCloud said, "There can only be one!"... So maybe there is a slight misunderstanding or typo here?!?!?... Maybe GM Dee is not the GM of Serrada Escrima but, Sirrana Escrima!:-) "Serrada"=Close "Sira"=Broken Jun FFALV www.filipinofightingartsintl.com http://martialartsfriends.com/icodale7 http://communitylink.reviewjournal.com/lvrj/shotokankarate ----- Original Message ---- From: Ray To: Eskrima-Digest Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:44:34 PM Subject: [Eskrima] Cabales Serrada Escrima Angel [RIP] was the GM of CSE. His son Vincent is now the Grandmaster of CSE. Ray _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:43:46 -1000 From: "Karl Vorwerk" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] New stock of Hawaiian Eskrima sticks at our web store. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List manager please delete if this is inappropriate. We have a new stock of locally made Strawberry Guava and Ironwood sticks in our store front. http://www.olaa-naloeskrima.com/store/escrima_sticks.html Store: http://www.olaa-naloeskrima.com/store/buy.html Homepage: http://www.olaa-naloeskrima.com/index.htm Thanks Karl --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 02:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "james jr. sy" Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Cerrada/Cerrado is the Spanish root. Serrada/Serrado is the Filipino corruption/rendention of the word. As previously stated by other lsit memebrs, it translates to "close(d)." However, the term Serrada/Serrado, as used in the Philippines, can also mean: 1. The backhand chamber position (most often seen demonstrated by GM Cabales in his old photos) The backhand chamber position is a "close" position because the arm held across the body forms an obstruction and thus, have "closed" the door. The forehand chamber position is an "open" i.e. abierta position because the weapon is chambered in the right shoulder and thereby "opening" the body. This definition is used in DUMAA Eskrima and some other styles of Arnis here in Negros. 2. Bridging or "closing" the distance Many Eskrimadors want to get in close so they can control the opponent and "close" most, if not all, of his counter options (like in Lapu-Lapu Viņas Arnis). James U. Sy Jr. Tom Howanic wrote: ahhhhhhh. That's not an accurate translation. Means "Closing Skirmish" _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 02:28:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "james jr. sy" Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Escrima is Spanish for Fencing. Eskrima is the Filipino corruption of Escrima. Escrime is French (if I remember it right) for Fencing. Scrima (sp?) is Italian for Fencing. I am not aware of any historical/etymologival definition of Escrima as "Skirmish." Patrick Wilson wrote: No Angel Carbalise is Grand Master of Sarrada: which means to close Eskrima if not mistaken means to skirmish --- carlos aguilar wrote: > HELLO, > JUST CURIOUS IS GRANDMASTER DEE THE GRANDMASTER OF > SERRADA ESCRIMA? > > Ray wrote: Grandmaster > Dee will perform May 17 > BedfordTimesRegister.com > > Grandmaster Dee, an internationally known martial > arts performer, will > perform and demonstrate his style of self defense, > known as Serrada > Escrima, at a free open house event at All Star > Martial Arts, 40 > Northfield Road, Bedford, on May 17 from 1 to 4 p.m. > > Grandmaster Dee promotes a holistic approach with > his martial arts and > fitness programs. Serrada Escrima are Spanish words > that mean close > and quick, respectively. > > On May 18 from 1 to 4 p.m. at All Star Martial Arts, > there will be a > Serrada Escrima hands-on seminar. For more > information, call > 440-439-3700. > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > > > www.dakipdiwa.com > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 01:56:38 -0700 (PDT) From: jo moran Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Say what?!? Escrima means quick...??? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all..new here Isn't ESCRIMA from the Spanish word ESGRIMA which means FENCING? Ray wrote: Of West Street, San Jose. GM T On May 15, 2008, at 3:43 PM, jay de leon wrote: > so serrada escrima is not quick at all? > > but GM T is still the fastest in the west? > is that west San Jose, or the western hemisphere? _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2500 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest