Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:48:21 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #141 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Punong Guro Tony Marcial seminar in Columbus Ohio (dan mcconnell) 2. Asia To Alaska Land Bridge and Run Fu (Guro Dennis Servaes) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: dan mcconnell To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Punong Guro Tony Marcial seminar in Columbus Ohio Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net United Modern Arnis will host a seminar with Punong Guro Tony Marcial of Marcial Tirada Kali. Topics will include knife, stick, empty hand and ground work. Where: Hilliard Martial Arts Center 3840 Lacon rd Unit 4 Hilliard Ohio 43026 (suburb of Columbus) When: Saturday July 12th from 10a.m. to 3p.m. Cost: $55.00 pre reg- ends July 4th $65.00 at the door For further information or an emailed flyer please contact Dan McConnell at 614-771-5599 or www.teamhmac.com or email Dan@teamhmac.com. Respectfully, Dan McConnell United Modern Arnis Hilliard Martial Arts Center --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Guro Dennis Servaes To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Asia To Alaska Land Bridge and Run Fu Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I would like to propose another point of view, other than the one of ancient Asians migrating from Asia to America prior to Columbus etc. to cause similarities in physical appearances between the original American Indian Natives and Asians. In school we were indoctrinated to the theory that Asians crossing from Siberia or whatever to Alaska, on an ancient land bridge. Some anthropologist became famous for making that claim. What is his name? Anyway or However, Eastern America was known as Vineland, and some Indians like to drink. These two facts along with the fact that American Indians have been known to get lost after moderate drinking has proposed a theory that it was not too unlikely and very possible that American Indians getting drunk and going to Asia rather than the Asians coming here. This used to be a common concern among American Indians even when they didn’t drink. It's like if I see you, then you can probably see me type deal. American Indians did not have any need for a military, so lacked in martial arts and military strategy, however they were very into entertainment and sometimes had a type of wrestling. They also had hunting skills which enabled some to develop self defense skills. They learned from their enemies sometimes. I think it would be presumptuous to think that they didn't have knife fighting skills as they had knives, and human nature as it is, would lead to fighting with blades. One of the better self defense moves was hiding or cover and concealment, and also what was known then as RUN FU. Some people think there may even be Asian Martial Arts that have descended from Run Fu, still in existence. The French and Spanish and Filipinos brought blade arts to New Orleans, and we can speculate that native Americans could have trained in European Martial Arts on a very need to know curriculum. If they joined the military they would learn what they had to. Native Americans would make peace with settlers, then the United States would send a new wave of people to that area. Problems would arise and the Natives Americans would be herded up and slaughtered. The Apaches learned from the Spanish, and the Navajo learned to use a war shield from the Spanish. The Apaches found that a lance could beat the Spanish sword or knife, and a Winchester would beat a lance. Thirty seven Apaches defeated several hundred Armed U.S. Cavalry after chasing Mexican soldiers out of their desert. Eventually though U.S. Military returned with cannons and mules and captured the surrendering Geronimo, and he was sent to prison. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest