Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:25:00 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #184 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2600 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #183 - 6 msgs (Beungood8@aol.com) 2. Words? (Ray) 3. Misinformation!!! (Eric Taimanglo) 4. Re: Fwd: Misinformation!!! (Felipe Jocano) 5. Re: oh no its true (Felipe Jocano) 6. Re: Misinformation and an angry response (Mark Harrell) 7. Angry (Ray) 8. Re: Fwd: Misinformation!!! (jay de leon) 9. Re: Angry (jay de leon) 10. 10th World Chip (Ray) 11. 26 secs of Judo (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:59:26 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #183 - 6 msgs Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 7/18/2008 7:30:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: name in any way out of your agitative mouth. Obviously you are > somewhat mentally disaarranged. You've been warned!!! > Agitative and disarranged are words? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:30:54 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Words? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Absotively.... :) Ray On Jul 18, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Beungood8@aol.com wrote: > Agitative and disarranged are words? --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:10:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Taimanglo To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Misinformation!!! Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net     What a child.  I think I remember this guy promoting Serrada in magazines in the 80's; he looked like an El DeBarge reject... with sticks and swords, of course.   Mr. Terry, > > > this is your last and final warning directly from me...I've  > expressed to you more than once to cease and desist from printing  > erroneous info. regarding myself and other's. I completed all of my  > advanced training under GGM Angel Cabales; all 12 numbers and their  > different component parts, including Cabales' master requirements. I  > have his signature on all of the diplomas that were personally  > awarded by GGM himself. I really do not understand what your mental  > hang-ups are, but you are definitely headed for a royal ass- > whooping...I am not going to give you anymore fore warning...keep my  > name in any way out of your agitative mouth. Obviously you are  > somewhat mentally disaarranged. You've been warned!!! --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:01:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Fwd: Misinformation!!! To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'd absotively, agitatively rather not get kicked and be disaarranged thank you :-) Bot --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Ray wrote: > From: Ray Thought the list would get a kick out this... > > > Ray > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: anthony davis > > Date: July 18, 2008 10:05:40 AM PDT > > To: EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net > > Subject: Misinformation!!! > > Reply-To: anthonyserrada2@yahoo.com > > > > Mr. Terry, > > > > > > this is your last and final warning directly from > me...I've > > expressed to you more than once to cease and desist > from printing > > erroneous info. regarding myself and other's. I > completed all of my > > advanced training under GGM Angel Cabales; all 12 > numbers and their > > different component parts, including Cabales' > master requirements. I > > have his signature on all of the diplomas that were > personally > > awarded by GGM himself. I really do not understand > what your mental > > hang-ups are, but you are definitely headed for a > royal ass- > > whooping...I am not going to give you anymore fore > warning...keep my > > name in any way out of your agitative mouth. Obviously > you are > > somewhat mentally disaarranged. You've been > warned!!! > > > > > > GM Davis/ President > > > > World Serrada Escrima Federation > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] oh no its true To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I looked at the other posted videos on same topic, I liked the extreme martial arts flipping video. Those guys sure had a flippin' good time :-) at 43, I wish I could flip (out?) like that :-) nice to look at, sure would like to try just for the fun of it... bot --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Mike Casto wrote: > From: Mike Casto > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] oh no its true > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 12:05 AM > Actually it was a back flip - > http://youtube.com/watch?v=u1JiIG2PBGY > > I'm pretty sure these new clips aren't the same > guy: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qchc9jKHrHs > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NS5-UqTlQ > > > Mike > > > mpc60 wrote: > > I think it was the front flip that knocked him out. He > didn't land correctly, > > fell forward and hit his head if I'm not mistaken. > He tried to get up but he > > was too dazed. Take that as a lesson. We need to know > our limitations and > > avoid trying to purposely impress poeple with our > skills. In to the original > > video notice his kocky gesture just before the flip. > The human ego can be ones > > worst enemy. > > > > Karl Swass > > > > Karl Swass > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: maurice gatdula > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:32 PM > > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Subject: [Eskrima] oh no its true > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qchc9jKHrHs > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7NS5-UqTlQ > > > > he taked the bruce lee/jim kelly thing way too far, > but he had heart, and > > didnt do to bad till he got knocked out, haha. > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Mark Harrell To: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:35:16 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Misinformation and an angry response Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Unfortunately, we live in a world where everyone is brave behind their keyboard because they feel safeand unaccountable for their words. I can certainly understand Mr. Davis's frustration with perceived mis-information about him and not being able to address and re-solve the issues at hand in an intelligentand responsible way. Very frustrating! I do not personally know either Mr. Davis or Mr. Terry or the exact details and history of the beef betweenthem but such public displays of the so called "mis-information" or "erroneous info" and the angry response from Mr. Davis are examples of the type of behavior that has damaged the image of Serrada Eskrima. A potential and unfortunate result of such an angry response that issues not only a warning but also a threat of violencepresented in a public format such as the internet is that it can be admissible in a court of law and can be used against Mr. Davis. This emotional response no matter how justified it may feel can carry a heavy toll. Such displays of saber rattling are not advisable... especially on the internet due to the potential legal consequences. I hope that Mr. Davis and Mr. Terry can work out their differences in a more positive way or at the very least in a more private way so that the art of Serrada Eskrima and martial arts in general do not suffer the consequences of the conflict between two men. > From: anthony davis > Date: July 18, 2008 > Subject: Misinformation!!!>> Mr. Terry,>> this is your last and final warning directly from me...I've > expressed to you more than once to cease and desist from printing > erroneous info. regarding myself and other's. I completed all of my > advanced training under GGM Angel Cabales; all 12 numbers and their > different component parts, including Cabales' master requirements. I > have his signature on all of the diplomas that were personally > awarded by GGM himself. I really do not understand what your mental > hang-ups are, but you are definitely headed for a royal ass- > whooping...I am not going to give you anymore fore warning...keep my > name in any way out of your agitative mouth. Obviously you are > somewhat mentally disaarranged. You've been warned!!!>> GM Davis/ President> World Serrada Escrima Federation _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_fami ly_safety_072008 --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:50:08 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Angry Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net And sadly it isn't just seen in Serrada, but also Doce Pares and Pekiti-Tirsia and Villabrille Kali and Serak and Modern Arnis and... In the RP in years gone by, Al Gore had not yet invented the Internet, so styles & clubs would place posters up around towns and villages with threats and challenges. I guess this is just the newer high tech way of doing it. But it is all good. I've received a "lot of love" from all types over the last 15 years for doing whatever it is we do here and I expect that will continue. :) Ray On Jul 19, 2008, at 5:35 AM, Mark Harrell wrote: > public displays of the so called "mis-information" or > "erroneous info" and the angry response are examples of the > type of behavior that has damaged the image of Serrada Eskrima. --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:20:42 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Fwd: Misinformation!!! To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net good grief, prof. jocano.  i hope it is not english you teach in college.   jay de leon www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Felipe Jocano wrote: From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Fwd: Misinformation!!! To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 12:01 AM I'd absotively, agitatively rather not get kicked and be disaarranged thank you :-) Bot --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Ray wrote: > From: Ray Thought the list would get a kick out this... > > > Ray > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: anthony davis > > Date: July 18, 2008 10:05:40 AM PDT > > To: EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net > > Subject: Misinformation!!! > > Reply-To: anthonyserrada2@yahoo.com > > > > Mr. Terry, > > > > > > this is your last and final warning directly from disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Angry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mr. Terry:   On behalf of the hundred or so warring factions, schools, clubs, organizations, self-styled renegades, rugged individuals, family members, heirs-in-waiting, disgruntled favorites who have now smartly dissociated and distanced themselves, all over planet earth, etc., I hereby object to the mischaracterization of Prof. Remy Presas's Modern Arnis, and now hereby forewarn you with ass-whooping, blah blah blah.   Jay de Leon www.filipinofightingartsintl.com www.imafp.com yes, two of those hundred organizations   p.s. but we also send you "a lot of love." mmwwaahhh. --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Ray wrote: From: Ray Subject: [Eskrima] Angry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 7:50 AM And sadly it isn't just seen in Serrada, but also Doce Pares and Pekiti-Tirsia and Villabrille Kali and Serak and Modern Arnis and... In the RP in years gone by, Al Gore had not yet invented the Internet, so styles & clubs would place posters up around towns and villages with threats and challenges. I guess this is just the newer high tech way of doing it. But it is all good. I've received a "lot of love" from all types over the last 15 years for doing whatever it is we do here and I expect that will continue. :) Ray On Jul 19, 2008, at 5:35 AM, Mark Harrell wrote: > public displays of the so called "mis-information" or > "erroneous info" and the angry response are examples of the > type of behavior that has damaged the image of Serrada Eskrima. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Ray To: Eskrima-Digest Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:13:27 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] 10th World Chip Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net 10th World Eskrima Kali Arnis Championships John Pages Sun.Star Cebu July 20, 2008 ASK me to swing a tennis racket, dribble an orange ball, swat a shuttlecock or jog a 10-K and I’m fine. But, the one sport that I admit complete ignorance on is the one activity that’s revered by millions: Martial Arts. Aikido, karatedo, judo, taekwondo, and many more ‘Do’s that include Kendo, Hapkido, Jukendo—they are aplenty. Add one more type of combat that’s venerated from the UK to the US and, above all, in Cebu.... Eskrima. Kali. Arnis. The three are one. They’re the same. Or so I learned when, last Tuesday night and together with my fellow scribes from the Sportswriters Association of Cebu (SAC), we trooped to a home that is a mecca of martial arts. Doce Pares. Located at No. 31 Eagle St. of Sto. Niño Village in Banilad, the name “Doce Pares” is admired in the world of Filipino martial arts. Gerald Cañete, only 27 years old but with decades of martial arts history swimming in his veins, welcomed us to his home and to the headquarters of the World Eskrima Kali Arnis Federation (Wekaf). Minutes after I arrived together with Mike Limpag, Noel Villaflor, Jonas Panerio and Karlon Rama, taxi after taxi stopped at the front door. Out emerged non-Filipinos. In fact, they were British and numbered dozens. Which brings me to one of the most-awaited events in Cebu this 2008, the 10th World Eskrima Kali Arnis Championships. Can you believe, over 500 foreigners have landed in our shores to compete? I didn’t know that. Until I saw the Britons myself. They were muscular, white, tall, black and all wore the same T-shirt with the print at the back, “Cebu, Philippines.” This competition, slated this Wednesday to Friday (July 23 to 25), is a must-watch—even for neophytes like you and me. It’s not local or national—but a true “World Championships.” “Most of the participants come here for multiple reasons,” said Gerald Cañete. “One is to compete, and the other is to train with different Masters and Grandmasters based in Cebu. Also, this is a time for fighters and their families to relax in Cebu—an event part of sports tourism.” Team USA? They’re sending a 110-person delegation, the biggest among the foreign teams. This number will be matched by our Philippine contingent, who are aiming to reclaim the overall trophy after losing the crown two years ago (in Florida, USA.) and, back in 2004, when Cebu City last hosted. Last Tuesday night at the Wekaf Headquarters, our group of 12 sportswriters was treated not only to crispy CNT lechon and savory dinuguan, but to a thorough explanation of the rules of Eskrima by Gerald Cañete. Next, we saw a full demonstration of arnis, with two fighters in padded attire striking each other, slamming and whacking using rattan sticks. Finally, the best part: the Supreme Grandmaster himself, Atty. Dionisio Cañete, lecturing on the sport he’s nurtured for decades. Looking fit as a 40-year-old with biceps that showed his robust build— he’s already 70—Diony Cañete demonstrated with his own two hands how to thwart attackers, swipe an aggressor’s hand, and snatch that knife and wallop the enemy. The founder and chairman emeritus of Wekaf—the world-governing body of Filipino martial arts—Atty. Diony Cañete sweated. He preached. He taught us a discourse on Eskrima. He gripped a bolo, a dagger. He exuded, from the smile on his face to the graceful workings of his arms and feet, a man loaded with passion. Yes, passion. And if you want to see that word in action, visit Ayala Center three days from now. A non-martial arts follower who never before appreciated Arnis and Eskrima, I’ll be there to watch. So, I hope, will you. --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray To: Eskrima-Digest Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:01:39 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] 26 secs of Judo Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&vid=806e1e6b-be1d-48bd-b44a-9f5379383243&playlist=videoByTag:tag:viral:ns:Gallery:mk:us:vs:1&from=MSNHP&tab=m137>1=42003 26 Judo throws in 26 seconds. Ray --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest