Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:48:22 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #188 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. weapon laws (jason couture) 2. Knife crime in England (jo moran) 3. Re: making guns (or knives) illegal (iPat) 4. Re: weapon laws (Daniel Arola) 5. Cebu tourny (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:56:32 -0700 (PDT) From: jason couture To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] weapon laws Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net No matter what the law says, the bad guys will always find the tools they need to commit the crime. It's up to the good guys to hope for the best but........prepare for the worst. As a man of the house hold unit, that is your duty. As the mother of a child, that is your duty. As a well rounded human being......that is your duty. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: jo moran To: Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Knife crime in England Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net An interesting article indicating that there is not really a "KNIFE CRIME" epidemic at all. http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/0000000CA825.htm --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:47:47 +0100 From: iPat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] making guns (or knives) illegal Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net hi Maurice i cant argue with your points but the UK never had a gun situation where people carried guns for self defence since ww1. The rights of English subjects, and, after 1707, British subjects, to possess arms was recognised under English Common Law, Formerly, this same British common law applied to the UK and Australia, as well as until 1791 to the Colonies in North America that became the United States. Modern restrictions on gun ownership began in 1903, with the Pistols Act. A registration system gun law - the Firearms Act - was first introduced to Great Britain in 1920, spurred on partly due to fears of a surge in crime that might have resulted from the large number of guns available following World War I and in part due to fears of working class unrest in this period. In 1987, 27 year old Michael Ryan, armed with a semi-automatic AK-47, a Beretta handgun and an M1 carbine, dressed up in combat fatigues and proceeded around the town of Hungerford killing 16 people, wounding 15 and shooting himself, in what became known as the Hungerford massacre. In the aftermath, the Conservative government passed the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988. On March 13, 1996 Thomas Hamilton shot dead sixteen young children and their teacher in Dunblane Primary School with his licensed weapons and ammunition.Following the incident, the government passed the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997 which means that as of 1997 handguns have been almost completely banned for private ownership. Most of these were sporting guns or colectors items. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:13 PM, maurice gatdula wrote: > i wanted to comment on the article about the knife attacks in england. > > i dont think its going to help to make any weapons illegal, to make crime go down. the people who needed to defend themself will not have a stronger way to protect against the criminals who rob steal and murder. -- Pat Davies www.amag.org.uk "If you don't go out in the woods, nothing will ever happen & your life will never begin…" --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:38:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Arola Subject: Re: [Eskrima] weapon laws To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net right on Jason. I can dig it the most! DAMAG-INC [Daniel Arola Martial Arts Group Inc.] http://www.damag-inc.zoomshare.com Houston, Texas   --- On Tue, 7/22/08, jason couture wrote: From: jason couture Subject: [Eskrima] weapon laws To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 12:56 AM No matter what the law says, the bad guys will always find the tools they need to commit the crime. It's up to the good guys to hope for the best but........prepare for the worst. As a man of the house hold unit, that is your duty. As the mother of a child, that is your duty. As a well rounded human being......that is your duty. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray To: Eskrima-Digest Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:32:40 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Cebu tourny Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Wednesday, July 23, 2008 Stick to the fight Sun Star Cebu How popular is a local sport, known to many Filipinos as arnis, to the rest of the world? One can find out today as more than 500 stick fighters from 27 countries, competing in close to a hundred divisions, troop to Ayala Center Cebu Activity Center to take part in the biennial meeting of arnisadors in the 10th World Eskrima Kali Arnis Championships, which opens this morning. Apart from known rivals, USA and the Philippines, the other countries taking part in the competition are United Kingdom, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Hungary, Norway, Reunion Island Republic, Spain, Australia, Mexico, India, Hongkong, Saudi Arabia, Canada, Austria, South Korea, Italy, France, South Africa, Puerto Rico, Switzerland, New Zealand and Guam. Vengeance This year, Team Pinoy has geared itself into snatching the overall plum from perennial champions, USA. The Pinoys, who used to dominate the sport, has been finishing second to USA in the past few world championships and they are determined to change that scenario today. “Despite having some difficulties in forming the team, Team Pinoy will surely give the opposing teams a hard time,” said Team Pinoy head coach Val Pableo, who is also a four-time world champion. Sonny Napial, World Eskrima Kali Arnis Federation (Wekaf) president for USA, said that they will use the techniques taught by the Filipinos to the best of their abilities. “We accept the challenge because we are here to compete,” said Napial. Field USA is fielding more than 100 players while Team Pinoy is planning to field the same number of fighters. However, Team Pinoy admitted that it will have difficulty in fielding players in heavyweight category in the women’s, men’s, and veteran’s divisions. It took a year for the Team Pinoy to be created as Wekaf has been holding several qualifying competitions leading up to today. Today, the formal events will start at 10 a.m. In the afternoon, the program will be highlighted by the attendance of Senator Juan Miguel Zubiri, an arnisador himself, to show his support to the Filipino --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest