Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:48:21 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #192 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Not quite (Ray) 2. military info. (jason couture) 3. Not quite (Eric Taimanglo) 4. Re: Not quite--to eric (jay de leon) 5. More Lapu-Lapu (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Not quite Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:00:35 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Great. I didn't realize that you had been in Iraq training troops. Good job! Ray On Jul 25, 2008, at 2:04 PM, jay de leon wrote: > I trained a couple of military friends in the > US Cavalry, in 3 man teams in Humvees in > assault and patrol assignment in Iraq. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jason couture To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] military info. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net With all due respect. Please refrain from using specific unit names, team sizes and organizational equipment used in a combat theater on the digest or the internet in general. If you're military or prior.... you know the importance of a SALUTE report. Let's not make it any easier for the bad guys 'eh? Again, I request in total respect. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:18:04 +0300 From: "Eric Taimanglo" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Not quite Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Damn; getting hit from three sides by three esteemed fellow FMAers; my ego is on the floor writhing in pain. ;) Marc, I had no idea there was a DBMA group in Balad; my first assignment was spent over there from April 07 to March 08; if I had known, I probably would never have transferred to Taji... is the group part of the MWR event calendar? Ray, I remember you telling me about Roger, but the only times I made it to the IZ was as part of a convoy... Jay, I'd like to know if you still maintain point of contact with the Iraqi FMAers you mentioned. Well, gentlemen, now that I have wiped the eggs off of my face, I guess I will have to settle for "the first FMA class in Taji"... though I am pretty sure that FMA has never been put on a MWR calendar... (cringing, waiting for the next salvo of Grade-A goodness) Eric --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Not quite--to eric To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net hi eric:   first of all, my intention was far from diminishing any lustre off your accomplishment.  it was simply a "me, too" post, plus our situations are a little bit different. i am just proud of godo's accomplishments in the middle east, the same way i laud your efforts.   regarding your question, if you mean the civilian Iraqis, i can find out their contact info from godo.  if you mean my military friends i mentioned, they are back safely in the USA, thank god for that.   also, i would like to take this opportunity to apologize for any inadvertent breach of military info protocol on my part.   jay de leon www.filipinofightingartsintl.com --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Eric Taimanglo wrote: From: Eric Taimanglo Subject: [Eskrima] Not quite To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 11:18 PM Damn; getting hit from three sides by three esteemed fellow FMAers; my ego is on the floor writhing in pain. ;) Marc, I had no idea there was a DBMA group in Balad; my first assignment was spent over there from April 07 to March 08; if I had known, I probably would never have transferred to Taji... is the group part of the MWR event calendar? Ray, I remember you telling me about Roger, but the only times I made it to the IZ was as part of a convoy... Jay, I'd like to know if you still maintain point of contact with the Iraqi FMAers you mentioned. Well, gentlemen, now that I have wiped the eggs off of my face, I guess I will have to settle for "the first FMA class in Taji"... though I am pretty sure that FMA has never been put on a MWR calendar... (cringing, waiting for the next salvo of Grade-A goodness) Eric _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray To: Eskrima-Digest Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:05:41 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] More Lapu-Lapu Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sunday, July 27, 2008 Pages: The No. 1 export of the Philippines John Pages Sun.Star Cebu ON THE morning of April 27, 1521, our first national hero was discovered. Named Lapu-Lapu, together with bare-chested warriors he extinguished the Spanish armada led by the Portuguese, Ferdinand Magellan. Using spears and the Moro weapon kampilan, they butchered and knifed the enemies in the “Battle Of Mactan.” That was 487 long years ago. Today, Lapu-Lapu’s bravery continues.... Wearing the same brown skin as Lapu-Lapu, Filipinos faced Spaniards. And worse, our countrymen were up against more invaders: the Americans, British, Italians, Germans, Swiss, Koreans, the French—a total of 23 other nations have landed in Cebu to conquer Cebu. This time, the skirmish was named, “Battle at Ayala.” For four days ending yesterday at the Ayala Center Cebu, there stood women, boys, men and girls who clashed during the 10th World Eskrima Arnis Kali Championships. Last Wednesday and Thursday, I watched. I saw banners that hung from the rafters. Video cameras recorded to document all angles. Security guards paraded to cordon the Activity Center. A large screen loomed onstage. The fights were plenty. Imagine 24 countries battling under one city, one mall, one floor? Many foreign visitors were muscular. Some were tall; others petite. Plenty were long-haired with tattoos; some were bald. Many wore red; some, blue; a few, white. My best watch? Two fighters surrounded by two camps of screaming teammates, one chanting “U! S! A! U! S! A!” the other hollering, “U! K! U! K! U! K!” They were shouting in unison and, standing beside Atty. Dionisio Cañete, the Supreme Grandmaster of Doce Pares, all I could do was smile, clap and gaze amazed at the revelry. Imagine, on RP soil, the US vs. the UK? For here’s my point: While Lapu-Lapu used sticks and swords to bloody and kill Magellan; while Arnis and Eskrima are widely acknowledged to have originated in the Philippines—this type of martial arts is not popular here. Or, it’s not as popular here as it is in other nations. Plus, of course, we know it pales in comparison against taekwondo, karatedo or aikido. But here’s the irony: this Filipino martial arts is popular outside our archipelago. Take the Americans. In all, they sent a 110-strong team. The British? Dozens. Same with 23 other nations. And though we fielded a squad that reached a hundred, you can see how popular stick-fighting has grown outside RP soil. In all, about 100 who joined the event were Filipinos— compared to 500 foreigners! Which led former judo champion Nimrod Quiñones, the managing editor of The Freeman, to conclude: “Arnis is RP’s top export.” Well-said, Nim. With this in mind, plenty is being done to counter this. To start with, the recent 10th Wekaf world meet was a way to popularize the sport. And the fact that the organizers—led by Grandmaster Diony and Gerald and Michael Cañete—decided to hold it not at a far-flung basketball gym but at the heart of Cebu, at Ayala Center, is a tactic to entice Cebuanos to watch. And kudos to Ayala Center for their support—led by Cebu Holdings, Inc. President Francis Monera and top Ayala officials Joy Polloso and Bong Dy—for personally being there. Senator Migz Zubiri, a former undefeated arnisador, I met last Wednesday. He invigorated the crowd with his speech and, right after, demonstrated his skill in an exhibition with Team Pinoy head coach (and four-time world champ) Val Pableo. Best of all, while talking to our group of sportswriters and together with his good friend and top businessman Edwin Ortiz, he authored a bill in the Senate declaring arnis as RP’s National Sport—to be taught at all schools. Good. Great. Because with the recent 10th Wekaf World Championships success, I hope arnis gains more popularity. In RP. In Cebu. Among Filipinos. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest