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Re: Le Punte Abenico (Daniel Arola) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:58:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Ruel Apostol Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net oh wow... stick katas! i am from the philippines and been learning fma here, but i wish i knew one stick kata... but we don't have those. for sure, 'Le Punte Abenico" does not have any ancient origin if that is what you are pertaining to. stick katas... ----- Original Message ---- From: Eternal IV To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:33:52 PM Subject: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico I know a single stick kata called 'Le Punte Abenico'. I understand that it comes from the 'Diamondback Eskrima', taught by Grandmaster Greg Henderson. I am wondering if anyone had any more information on the origins of this kata... peace, Scott _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. 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I understand that it comes from the 'Diamondback Eskrima', taught by Grandmaster Greg Henderson. I am wondering if anyone had any more information on the origins of this kata... peace, Scott _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F 1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m =EXT _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:24:48 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Doce Pares has at least one stick kata. I learned one from Cacoy in his backyard, but not sure now if DP has more or not. Ray Terry EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net On Sep 20, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Ruel Apostol wrote: > oh wow... stick katas! > > i am from the philippines and been learning fma here, but i wish i > knew one stick kata... but we don't have those. for sure, 'Le Punte > Abenico" does not have any ancient origin if that is what you are > pertaining to. > > stick katas... --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Daryl Johnson To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:53:17 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Does anyone have any video clips of basic stickwork? Sumbrada?Daryl "DJ" Johnson DJ-TACTICS .COM > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:03:30 -0700> From: jakkdawg@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico> To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> > probably the question to ask is, what is the origin of> "diamond eskrima"?> > for whatever it is worth, remy presas modern arnis> does have katas, in addition to the usual sayaw or> rapillon. i do not know if remy ever taught his katas > here in the US, but those philippine guys for sure> have katas learned from remy.> > jay de leon> www.filipinofightingartsintl.com> > --- On Sat, 9/20/08, Ruel Apostol wrote:> > From: Ruel Apostol > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico> To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 4:58 PM> > oh wow... stick katas!> > i am from the philippines and been learning fma here, but i wish i knew one> stick kata... but we don't have those. for sure, 'Le Punte> Abenico" does not have any ancient origin if that is what you are> pertaining to.> > stick katas...> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Eternal IV > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:33:52 PM> Subject: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico> > I know a single stick kata called 'Le Punte Abenico'.> > I understand that it comes from the 'Diamondback Eskrima', taught by> Grandmaster Greg Henderson. I am wondering if anyone had any more information> on the origins of this kata...> > peace,> Scott> > _________________________________________________________________> Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay.> http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F> 1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m> =EXT> _______________________________________________> Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members> Eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net> _______________________________________________> Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members> Eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net> _______________________________________________> Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "The Sipins" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:12:54 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net DP has numerous forms, with a few variations of the same forms from different people, or at different times. In 87 Greg was in Cebu for training with Diony, Cacoy, "Chito" Velez, Abner Pasas and others. I believe La Punti was an off-shoot group from DP at that time, they led some of the training. Some of what they did included a lot of, and was referred by them as "abaniko style". I'm fairly certain that was where and when he picked that up. Greg was in New Zealand at that time. Tom Sipin www.fwma.net DPI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" To: Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico > Doce Pares has at least one stick kata. I learned one from Cacoy in his > backyard, but not sure now if DP has more or not. > > Ray Terry > EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net > > > On Sep 20, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Ruel Apostol wrote: > >> oh wow... stick katas! >> >> i am from the philippines and been learning fma here, but i wish i knew >> one stick kata... but we don't have those. for sure, 'Le Punte Abenico" >> does not have any ancient origin if that is what you are pertaining to. >> >> stick katas... > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "The Sipins" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:47:20 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Correction. Abner Pasa, not Pasas. Sorry Tom Sipin www.fwma.net DPI ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Sipins" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico > DP has numerous forms, with a few variations of the same forms from > different people, or at different times. > > In 87 Greg was in Cebu for training with Diony, Cacoy, "Chito" Velez, > Abner Pasas and others. I believe La Punti was an off-shoot group from DP > at that time, they led some of the training. Some of what they did > included a lot of, and was referred by them as "abaniko style". I'm fairly > certain that was where and when he picked that up. > > Greg was in New Zealand at that time. > > Tom Sipin > www.fwma.net > DPI > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico > > >> Doce Pares has at least one stick kata. I learned one from Cacoy in his >> backyard, but not sure now if DP has more or not. >> >> Ray Terry >> EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Ruel Apostol wrote: >> >>> oh wow... stick katas! >>> >>> i am from the philippines and been learning fma here, but i wish i knew >>> one stick kata... but we don't have those. for sure, 'Le Punte >>> Abenico" does not have any ancient origin if that is what you are >>> pertaining to. >>> >>> stick katas... >> _______________________________________________ >> Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >> Standard disclaimers apply >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:00:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Arola Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hahah... I caught that! DAMAG-INC [Daniel Arola Martial Arts Group Inc.] http://www.damag-inc.zoomshare.com Houston, Texas   --- On Sun, 9/21/08, The Sipins wrote: From: The Sipins Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 9:47 AM Correction. Abner Pasa, not Pasas. Sorry Tom Sipin www.fwma.net DPI ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Sipins" To: Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico > DP has numerous forms, with a few variations of the same forms from > different people, or at different times. > > In 87 Greg was in Cebu for training with Diony, Cacoy, "Chito" Velez, > Abner Pasas and others. I believe La Punti was an off-shoot group from DP > at that time, they led some of the training. Some of what they did > included a lot of, and was referred by them as "abaniko style". I'm fairly > certain that was where and when he picked that up. > > Greg was in New Zealand at that time. > > Tom Sipin > www.fwma.net > DPI > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Le Punte Abenico > > >> Doce Pares has at least one stick kata. I learned one from Cacoy in his >> backyard, but not sure now if DP has more or not. >> >> Ray Terry >> EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Ruel Apostol wrote: >> >>> oh wow... stick katas! >>> >>> i am from the philippines and been learning fma here, but i wish i knew >>> one stick kata... but we don't have those. for sure, 'Le Punte >>> Abenico" does not have any ancient origin if that is what you are >>> pertaining to. >>> >>> stick katas... >> _______________________________________________ >> Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >> Standard disclaimers apply >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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