Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:48:22 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #259 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: FMA magazine (david foggie) 2. tapi tapi in Mod Arnis? (tenrec) 3. Re: Gunting Knives (B Katz) 4. Re: Tapi Tapi in Modern Arnis? (Talibung Antike) 5. For our Pinoy friends (william mcgrath) 6. Dizon's eskrima (Ray) 7. Re: kali, once more, into the breech (tim) 8. Re: For our Pinoy friends (nephalim1@aim.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:16:13 -0700 (PDT) From: david foggie Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA magazine To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I think I am talking for all parctitioners of FMA when I say we all owe a great big thank you to both Ray and PG Steven for the immense work and contribution they make to the FMA and providing us all with avenues of communication to share thoughts and ideas with.   Thank you guys!   Re FMA magazine, I know the guy who is publishing GM Roland Dantes book early next year and realeasing an 8 volume Kali Ilustrisimo Dvd series with Master Christopher "Topher" Ricketts and his son, Guro Bruce Ricketts is also planning on publishing a magazine covering only FMA several times per year. I will find out more when GM Roland and I meet up with him in a few weeks.     --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:44:50 +0100 From: tenrec To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] tapi tapi in Mod Arnis? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net yehey all! >Master of Tapi Tapi Chuck Gauss of Detroit, Michigan will be returning to >Oshawa, Ontario > Is this GM Remy Presas style modern arnis? When did Modern Arnis introduce Tapi-tapi? take care and good luck! tenrec@avcorner.com tenrec2@yahoo.com tenrec2@gmail.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: B Katz Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Gunting Knives To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Unless you are totally hung up on the Spyderco Gunting... try a Cherusker Lapu-lapu Corto. It is a Bram Frank design as well... kind of an A-2 Gunting. I have owned both and actually prefer the Cherusker to the Spyderco. It is lighter and the blade is better suited for a cutting technique. And the fact that they are right around $80 or so as opposed to $200+ for the Spyderco certainly dosen't hurt!! Ebay is where I got mine and if I recall correctly I gave about $85 for it. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:00:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Talibung Antike Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Tapi Tapi in Modern Arnis? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Please check on this site... you might find interesting answers here Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} http://visayanfilipinomartialarts.blogspot.com/ all the best tenrec wrote: yehey all! >Master of Tapi Tapi Chuck Gauss of Detroit, Michigan will be returning to >Oshawa, Ontario > Is this GM Remy Presas style modern arnis? When did Modern Arnis introduce Tapi-tapi? take care and good luck! tenrec@avcorner.com tenrec2@yahoo.com tenrec2@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --------------------------------- Get your preferred Email name! Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:17:15 -0700 (PDT) From: william mcgrath To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] For our Pinoy friends Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net If you're Filipino or have friends who are, you should enjoy this. http://www.temple.edu/tupac/newareyoufilipino.html  Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath www.TheSwordofFire.com www.pekiti.com http://www.youtube.com/user/TuhonBillMcg --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray To: Eskrima-Digest Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:26:40 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Dizon's eskrima Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I just read in the recent issue of Steven's FMADigest on Fred Lazo. In it Lazo is quoted as say that Dizon's style of eskrima was De Cuerdas. "Master Dizon was feared for his close range De cuerdas style, and rightly so." Fwiw, the following is what Guro Lazo emailed me back in 1999. ============================================ Dear Guro Terry I had heard GM Dizon say "Tapos ako sa De Cuerdas," meaning he finished or passed De Cuerdas. First I thought that he was referring to the success of passing through the tunnel test because Cuerdas as understood in the Philippines means "a stretched string of a guitar," but it also means a tighten spring which was used in the tunnel of death test. All along I understood that he knows Eskrima that can pass the Tunnel of Death. Dizon is Visayan and Cabales is the same. He probably made it appear that his Eskrima is De Cuerdas to Cabales to indicate the quality of his art. Personally I understood it to be an Eskrima that passed the Tunnel of Death or De Cuerdas tunnel. An Eskrima that can pass the Tunnel test has to be superior. It has been said that people who went through this test prepared their coffin ahead of time because very few passed it. The Legendary story about Dizon mentioned that he passed the test without injury and difficultly, which indicates that his personal expertise on his Eskrima is exceptional. De Cuerdas or any other name if it deals with the stick still is Eskrima. Very Truly Yours, Federico Lazo ============================================== Fwiw... Ray Terry EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:23:49 -0700 (PDT) From: tim To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: kali, once more, into the breech Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > now that i have piqued your interest, > go read the recent special edition of FMA > Digest entitled "Luzviminda."  Subscribers > should have their copies by now.  For non- > subscribers, it should be posted at the site > (FMA Digest) in a few days. >   > for anybody that wants to comment or > discuss this, please keep it down to a > friendly (or at least civil), academic roar. from the article "Filipino Martial Arts Classification": "How can Spanish fencing influence the Filipino martial arts in the 16th century when it was just revived in the 18th century? The book did not reconcile the facts before it was written nor did it do enough analysis and research to vindicate itself from possible critical scrutiny." the most famous spanish fencing manual (de la filosofia de las armas) was written by jeronimo de carranza in 1569. this is a fact easily obtainable by the most cursory look into spanish fencing. given that the author did not even look that far into something heavily documented, i find the rest of the unsourced and unverifiable claims about the origins of kali fanciful at best. tim --__--__-- Message: 8 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] For our Pinoy friends Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:11:30 -0400 From: nephalim1@aim.com Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hahaha!? I'm starting a chain mail for this one. Jose -----Original Message----- From: william mcgrath To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:17 am Subject: [Eskrima] For our Pinoy friends If you're Filipino or have friends who are, you should enjoy this. http://www.temple.edu/tupac/newareyoufilipino.html? Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath www.TheSwordofFire.com www.pekiti.com http://www.youtube.com/user/TuhonBillMcg _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest