Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:48:23 +0100 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 15 #280 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Break Time for Fun !! (jorge penafiel) 2. RE: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (Danny Anderson) 3. RE: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (jay de leon) (Danny Anderson) 4. Re: Break Time for Fun !! (Andrew Maddox) 5. Yes others Modern Arnis and BLADE (Toma) 6. Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (dan mcconnell) 7. Re: RE: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (jay de leon) (jay de leon) 8. Re: 15 minutes (Felipe Jocano) 9. Re: 15 Minutes !! (Felipe Jocano) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "jorge penafiel" To: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:16:39 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Break Time for Fun !! Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Whoahahaha!! Guess this is what we need in ED - a fun break at times as we've always been too serious with our FMA talks, not to mention all this businesses/banking/stock market/etc. going down the drain. Drives us nuts!! See, this what I missed about good ole pinoy way, although near or far from the homeland, pinoys still finds time to get their funny side out. Jun ,"Verlut",,filipino viagra is just too funny. Hey, have not heard anyone complaining about the ill-effects of Beer and Balut. Proof is the Philippines counts as being there as the most populous per land area.See you soon in your turf- Vegas!! Bill,,yeah the Iloilo waterfront was a combat zone then and still is today. Not a good place to be specially if you are not from there. What LEO,,,not in their vocabulary or job description to be in any waterfront area to keep peace. Happy Halloween to you all specially to Prof. Bot there in UP. Jay,,you my man!! jorge penafiel --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Danny Anderson To: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:22:55 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Dan, You're right. Kelly (he has renoucned the datu title) is one. Bram Frank is another. I'm working at it. It's great to hear you're another. Yours, Dan Anderson> From: dan mcconnell > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Subject: [Eskrima] Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people?> Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> > I would agree that "many" if not "most" modern arnis people are "mainly" stick people, but certainly not all of them.> There are people who train/teach modern arnis who spend a whole lot of time with edged weapons. > > Perhaps not worth the post, but I just wanted to mention it because I am one. Datu Kelly Worden would be another one, and there are others.> > Respectfully,> Dan McConnell _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns! 20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Danny Anderson To: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:24:48 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (jay de leon) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Jay, Yes, he did that by broad public notice. Hi is still a blade enthusiast. Yours, Dan anderson> > 1. Re: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (jay de leon)> > -- __--__-- > > Message: 1> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:19:14 -0700 (PDT)> From: jay de leon > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people?> To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> > it is my understanding that sometime middle of> this year, kelly worden renounced the title of datu,> and all ties to any Modern Arnis organization or> grandmaster.> ?> jay de leon> www.filipinofightingartsintl.com> > > --- On Sun, 10/26/08, dan mcconnell wrote:> > From: dan mcconnell > Subject: [Eskrima] Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people?> To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 12:41 PM> > I would agree that "many" if not "most" modern arnis people> are "mainly" stick people, but certainly not all of them.> There are people who train/teach modern arnis who spend a whole lot of time> with edged weapons.> > Perhaps not worth the post, but I just wanted to mention it because I am one.> Datu Kelly Worden would be another one, and there are others.> > Respectfully,> Dan McConnell _________________________________________________________________ You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Andrew Maddox To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Break Time for Fun !! Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:48:56 -0400 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:16 PM, jorge penafiel wrote: > Whoahahaha!! Guess this is what we need in ED - Um, given the topic of the prior post, that's definitely a funny one, Jorge! ;-) > Jun ,"Verlut",,filipino viagra is just too funny. > Bill,,yeah the Iloilo waterfront was a combat zone then and still is > today. > Not a good place to be specially if you are not from there. What > LEO,,,not in > their vocabulary or job description to be in any waterfront area to > keep > peace. Y'know, this seems to be true of the waterfront in every real working port around the world - I'm not imagining that, am I? Happy almost-Halloween, all! andrew, that guy in da States... --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Toma" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:23:27 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Yes others Modern Arnis and BLADE Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Toma [the old one] Toma Modern Arnis, M-80, and CSSDSC tomawallaikido@earthlink.net We try to do 1/2 half of each class each week Stick and 1/2 half on the Blade and what our Teacher Grandmaster Bram Frank does Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan mcconnell To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I would agree that "many" if not "most" modern Arnis people are "mainly" stick people, but certainly not all of them. There are people who train/teach modern Arnis who spend a whole lot of time with edged weapons. Perhaps not worth the post, but I just wanted to mention it because I am one. Datu Kelly Worden would be another one, and there are others. Respectfully, Dan McConnell --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:05:40 -0700 (PDT) From: dan mcconnell To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net What he renounced is the "open" use of the title "Datu" for himself, and most associations within modern arnis, particularly the other "Datus". He would never renounce his association with Remy A. Presas, the founder. People with ties to NSI, Kellys organization, will still call him Datu. There has been much happen in the modern arnis community that played into his decision. He is easy enough to get a hold of to get clarification. He does, certainly, include modern arnis and much blade work in his training and teaching. Regards, Dan McConnell "it is my understanding that sometime middle of this year, kelly worden renounced the title of datu, and all ties to any Modern Arnis organization or grandmaster." jay de leon --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:00:57 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] RE: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (jay de leon) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net hi super dan:   re your second sentence, that he is.  i never implied otherwise in my post (just a clarification, before a thousand flaming arrows come winging my way).   jay de leon www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Danny Anderson wrote: From: Danny Anderson Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (jay de leon) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 6:24 PM Hi Jay, Yes, he did that by broad public notice. Hi is still a blade enthusiast. Yours, Dan anderson> > 1. Re: Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people? (jay de leon)> > -- __--__-- > > Message: 1> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:19:14 -0700 (PDT)> From: jay de leon > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people?> To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> > it is my understanding that sometime middle of> this year, kelly worden renounced the title of datu,> and all ties to any Modern Arnis organization or> grandmaster.> ?> jay de leon> www.filipinofightingartsintl.com> > > --- On Sun, 10/26/08, dan mcconnell wrote:> > From: dan mcconnell > Subject: [Eskrima] Most Modern Arnis people are only stick people?> To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net> Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 12:41 PM> > I would agree that "many" if not "most" modern arnis people> are "mainly" stick people, but certainly not all of them.> There are people who train/teach modern arnis who spend a whole lot of time> with edged weapons.> > Perhaps not worth the post, but I just wanted to mention it because I am one.> Datu Kelly Worden would be another one, and there are others.> > Respectfully,> Dan McConnell _________________________________________________________________ You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:34:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] 15 minutes To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Manong Jay, Manong Jorge, Jun: Second the motion! Great idea! You could get rich! ;-) Especially here! Uhmmm, on second thought, given the calories in B & B (beer and balut), I suggest a supplemental line, Verlut Lite, same effects, less calories! Verlut regular, Verlut lite...Verlut extra strong? :-) :-) :-) Bot --- On Sun, 10/26/08, ILDEFONSO ODAL wrote: > From: ILDEFONSO ODAL > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] 15 minutes > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:29 PM > Master Jay and Sir Jorge, > > That is an excellent idea beer and balut in tablet form, > you can call it "Verlut" the pinoy version of > Viagra. Hindi lang pang-pamilya, pang sport at romansa pa! > (English please... "Not only for the family, for sport > and romance too"). You need to patent the idea! > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] 15 Minutes !! To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Manong Jay, Hmmmmmmmmmmm...... OK! ;-) Bot --- On Sun, 10/26/08, jay de leon wrote: > From: jay de leon > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] 15 Minutes !! > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 11:23 PM > Bot: >   > just look at it like a Rorschach test-- > whatever the inkblot looks like to you, > whatever floats your boat. >   > i was just humoring your manong Jorge's > rant about his glory days, akin to Crafty's > remembering his misspent youth. >   > jay de leon > happy just to remember his name > www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com > > > --- On Sun, 10/26/08, Felipe Jocano > wrote: > > From: Felipe Jocano > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] 15 Minutes !! > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 4:02 AM > > Kuya Jay, > > Mano y mano? You sure you're not talking about some > other technique? :-) > > Bot > > > >>   > > usually, when a pinoy talks about fortifying > > himself with balut and San Miguel beer, you > > are talking about a different kind of physical > > encounter and needed stamina.  (usually > > with the opposite sex). > > > > is this what you were alluding to?  if so, > > no self-respecting pinoy would admit to > > just 15 minutes of mano y mano. > >   > > jay de leon > > www.tipunan.com > >   > > > > --- On Fri, 10/24/08, jorge penafiel > > wrote: > > > > From: jorge penafiel > > Subject: [Eskrima] 15 Minutes !! > > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 8:29 PM > > > > Yeah,,,,the fight is short compared to Kung Fu Flick > fight > > scenes and > > provably > > also include break time to drink more "San Miguel > > Beer" or the local > > wine > > "Tuba",,hehehe. See that's the magic of > these > > drinks - makes one > > foolishly > > brave, have lots of stamina, as well as verility > specially > > when > > "Balut" is the > > pulotan (ask any pinoy this). > > Just for laughs as for now it's Flu season here in > the > > east coast and the > > Flu > > Bug got me!! Geez,,no defense moves against this > yearly > > pain all over the > > body. So,,,careful out there! > > BTW,,,get your Flu shots and if possible include the > > "Pneunonia shot too. > > Jorge Penafiel > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 2600 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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