Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:48:22 +0200 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 16 #147 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Weapons and legislation (and fruit) (Julian Gilmour) 2. Re: Weapons and legislation (and fruit) (beikokufighter@gmail.com) 3. Training Event-July 25 (The Sipins) 4. Testing your art-get on floor and go at it (Lawrence, Marc J (AS)) 5. McDojos and Little Ninjas (Bert Edens) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Julian Gilmour To: Escrima Digest Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:39:24 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Weapons and legislation (and fruit) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi All David Beck wrote: "Well, I've done video training with the Brits on what to do if someone attacks me with a banana... :) On a serious note, there is a point to be made there in that practically anything can be a weapon. Shopping bags, belts/sashes, keys, cell phones, pens, umbrellas, rolled up magazines... One of the things I love about FMA is the reinforcement and translation of the same motions and angles in techniques between different weapons." Here is the answer of a Brit, living in London: Firstly, what you may be unaware of, David, is that due to European legislation brought in not long ago, bananas now have strict guidelines on how straight they need to be, prior to being sold in Britain, and overly curved bananas are not allowed to be sold any more. Thus British bananas are now more deadly than ever ;) Secondly, in all seriousness, I am aware of the use of other incidental weapons that you mention, and indeed have trained several of them, and not just with videos (I have trained with Guro Inosanto, Sifu Marc McFann and Tuhon Bill McGrath). If I lived in the states, I would certainly be considering firearms for protection, but I don't. I do own a barong (albeit a fairly blunt one, for finger retention) but my prefered option for a break-in would be olisi, and my bedroom has very easy access to both rattan and kamagong. The legislation may seem silly to many other nationalities, and the housebreakers may have firearms, but 'my hands are tied' by legislation. I certainly find it more than a little frustrating at times, but we need to be aware of the law where we live, so as to stay out of prison ourselves, where I cannot protect my family, whatever my skill level. Hopefully his makes sense. I would be happy to any take advice you guys can offer on how to improve my home security, but I am not planning on emigrating. 'Strike from the void' (but only with an approved weapon) Julian _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Weapons and legislation (and fruit) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: beikokufighter@gmail.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:29:10 +0000 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Are knives illegal in all of Europe? Thanx, James Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Julian Gilmour Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:39:24 To: Escrima Digest Subject: [Eskrima] Weapons and legislation (and fruit) Hi All David Beck wrote: "Well, I've done video training with the Brits on what to do if someone attacks me with a banana... :) On a serious note, there is a point to be made there in that practically anything can be a weapon. Shopping bags, belts/sashes, keys, cell phones, pens, umbrellas, rolled up magazines... One of the things I love about FMA is the reinforcement and translation of the same motions and angles in techniques between different weapons." Here is the answer of a Brit, living in London: Firstly, what you may be unaware of, David, is that due to European legislation brought in not long ago, bananas now have strict guidelines on how straight they need to be, prior to being sold in Britain, and overly curved bananas are not allowed to be sold any more. Thus British bananas are now more deadly than ever ;) Secondly, in all seriousness, I am aware of the use of other incidental weapons that you mention, and indeed have trained several of them, and not just with videos (I have trained with Guro Inosanto, Sifu Marc McFann and Tuhon Bill McGrath). If I lived in the states, I would certainly be considering firearms for protection, but I don't. I do own a barong (albeit a fairly blunt one, for finger retention) but my prefered option for a break-in would be olisi, and my bedroom has very easy access to both rattan and kamagong. The legislation may seem silly to many other nationalities, and the housebreakers may have firearms, but 'my hands are tied' by legislation. I certainly find it more than a little frustrating at times, but we need to be aware of the law where we live, so as to stay out of prison ourselves, where I cannot protect my family, whatever my skill level. Hopefully his makes sense. I would be happy to any take advice you guys can offer on how to improve my home security, but I am not planning on emigrating. 'Strike from the void' (but only with an approved weapon) Julian _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2,700 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "The Sipins" To: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Training Event-July 25 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sipin's Four Winds Martial Arts will be holding 2 different types of competition stick-fighting training opportunities on Saturday, July 25th. The best of both worlds. 10am-1pm: Padded stick-fighting using "Engagement Rules". Using minimal equipment, stiffer sticks, (the new H.I.T. sticks from Action-Flex/Century) and almost unlimited targeting, matches are broken down and scored as a series of "mini-fights". These rules are applicable to FMA as well as any system using impact tools, and provide an event easily added to MA tournaments. These rules have been introduced and used by MA students and instructors with no previous FMA or impact weapon training, as well as in international competition with experienced competitors. In both groups participants offered the following comments: "the most practical rules", "the most fun they ever had", "easily understood by both competitors and spectators", "anyone could do this", "this would be great at Karate tournaments". Rules and info at: http://www.fwma.net/docs/Padded_Stick_Program_Rules_May2009.pdf 2pm-5pm: Live-stick following WEKAF rules. Official equipment will be on-hand for those that do not have any. Try a new experience or start to "tune-up" for the up-coming tournament season. Cost: $30 for one event, $45 for both $5 discount for current WEKAF members $5 discount (each) for more than 3 people from the same school $5 discount (each) for more than 1 family member For more info contact us at Four Winds: 414-541-3656 Thomas Sipin Four Winds Martial Arts 2038 S. 114th Street West Allis, WI 53227 414.541.3656 www.fwma.net www.centurymartialarts.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:16:08 -0500 From: "Lawrence, Marc J (AS)" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Testing your art-get on floor and go at it Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net My friend Jay Deleon said-(2) Regarding testing FMA against other non-FMA arts, did you have a current event, tournament or similar occurrence that would serve as a valid venue for the test? Assuming one does not currently exist, do you have a suggestion as to what that format might be? My reply to all- simply this- come to the Long Beach International and sign up for Cultural Challenge. This an open weapons sparring, that means you could fight any kind style with any kind of padded weapon that Action Flex has created and fight. This is mixed weapon sparring. This is not FMA verses FMA, but open weapon sparring. The rules are USFMAF rules. 1.5 minutes point sparring and 1.5 minutes continuous. We are having workshop at my school on the 19th for those who want to learn how to judge and referee in the USFMAF system. Space is limited. Marc Lawrence Punong Guro www.southbayfmaclub.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Bert Edens To: "eskrima@martialartsresource.net" Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:28:52 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] McDojos and Little Ninjas Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > some mcdojo's actually have commendable kids' > classes.  yes, it is more of an after-school care, but how > much martial arts can you really teach a 4-year old little > ninja?  also, many out-of-shape executives join their > children there--better than drinking beer and falling asleep > in front of the TV, not to mention soccer moms, in this case, > martial arts moms. >   > jay de leon > www.filipinofightingartsintl.com Greetings... One thing to remember with that age group is that you teach them very little about martial arts other than basic punches, blocks and kicks... The biggest thing is to work on discipline, focus, paying attention, following directions, all those things I wish more teens and adults had learned when they were that age. :) And of course, if it's fun, martial arts becomes something they enjoy and they easily transition into the junior class and possibly even make it a lifetime commitment. I know several adult black belts who started at that age and they show no signs of slowing down. From a marketing aspect, those Little Ninja classes are feeders into the junior class and a continued revenue stream. You can be a commercial school without "selling out", and as long as you have the resources to keep teaching, you can continue doing what you love and helping others develop the love for it. Anyway, just some thoughts... *bows* - Bert Edens --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest