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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Keyfobs and kubatons (Ray) 2. Re: fire hardening sticks (adam babb) 3. Culture and the Arts (Federico Malibago) 4. Re: r.i.p. Pres. Aquino (Felipe Jocano) 5. Multiple systems... (James Hudgens) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Keyfobs and kubatons Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:05:31 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Thanks! Sometimes product vendors can be really brain dead for putting wording like that on a perfectly good weapon. :) Better to just put something like "Pocket Pen" on it. Ray Terry EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net On Aug 1, 2009, at 8:06 AM, william mcgrath wrote: > but I would think you could get away with it in most other places, > especially if you took another perma-marker and blacked out the > words Cold Steel and Pocket Shark. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:36:59 -0700 (PDT) From: adam babb Subject: Re: [Eskrima] fire hardening sticks To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net you rub it down with bone like you a baseball bat --- On Wed, 7/29/09, norm rayos wrote: From: norm rayos Subject: [Eskrima] fire hardening sticks To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 7:42 PM I was reading the "Stickman's" article on fire hardening sticks and he mentioned in one of the final steps "Finally, when the stick is warm, I rub it down with the bone." Anyone know what he means by this? _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the web’s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2,700 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 05:03:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Federico Malibago To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Culture and the Arts Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I guess one of the things floating in the back of my head when I originally posed the question, was what is the role of culture in Filipino Arts, particularly when one goes beyond the obviously martial (e.g. repitition, competition, etc...). I have to admit, for myself the biggest difference that hit me training PI, wasnt so much the physical, but the cultural. If I looked at a video of my own experiences in PI, blanked out the sound, and memory, and selectively edited it, to cut out all the standing around time, the laid back time, etc...and just focused on physical techniques, I would not guess that there was any difference between the Western and PI approaches, based purely on the physical techniques. But at least for me, the true difference that struck me training in PI, vs the west, was just how much culture was infused into the training, and Im not talking memorizing a few Tagalog phrases calling an umbrella block a payong block or whatever, but just on a deeper, more developmental level, how the art developed as something truly Filipino, vs a bunch of techniques based around rattan stick. It was the culture that stood out for me, as being something recognizable, familiar, and natural. So I guess part of what I really wanted to ask, was what makes the FMA, a Filipino art? Is it just the physical, what does culture (more than just having native terms) play in making these arts Filipino? Sincerely Federico --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 04:50:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Felipe Jocano Subject: Re: [Eskrima] r.i.p. Pres. Aquino To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net With much love; as a brave and courageous woman who fought to bring our country back to constitutional democracy, without once firing a shot. the whole country is mourning for her bot ----- Original Message ---- From: Andrew Maddox To: Eskrima Digest Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 1:48:41 AM Subject: [Eskrima] r.i.p. Pres. Aquino >From the USian perspective, I remember watching the events she was so central to in some awe - a genuine people's movement that changed a country. I see in the news that she died Saturday morning, how will she be remembered? afm -- Andrew Maddox, madsox2k at freeshell dot org Practitioner of Unaffiliated Martial Arts But really just, like, this guy, y'know? _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2,700 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 5 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:56:03 -0400 From: James Hudgens Subject: [Eskrima] Multiple systems... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I’m unsure as to how to take Guro Al’s post.  I choose to check my own sarcastic nature and chalk up my lack of understanding the response to the limiting nature of email communication. >Al Sardinas wrote: “I do not know Lameco, DTS and Cacoy styles and I too am not trying to >  start some stuff here but from the above I deduct that you are not sure that no single style has >  everything because you end your statement as a question. “ I ended the statement “See what I mean?” as a question to as I was inquiring if my explanation was clear - nothing more.   If you mean “What I mean is, no single style has everything in it, and does everything well.?” then, the “question mark was a character that did not translate over email.  The statement ends with a period, not a question mark. Again, my question was inquiring of “others” handling of said situation.  I’m not so full of ego that I think I am the only one, or the first one, to find said conundrum and I'm curious how others handle(d) it so I can learn....   Bahala Na, James http://www.dynamicfightingarts.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest