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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 16 #172 font style problems? (Russell Blonski) 2. Re: Serrada video (jay de leon) 3. Re: Serrada video (Ray) 4. Re:Multiple systems...; Drills Vs Concepts (Al Sardinas) 5. Re: Serrada video (carlos aguilar) 6. list down or slow (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Russell Blonski" To: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:08:57 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 16 #172 font style problems? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, I've noticed with some of Al Sardinas' emails (as well as some others) that there is some kind of gobbly gook happening when certain characters are used. Can anyone say why this is happening? I like to read his posts but find it distracting.. Is it the font of typeface he is using or his format? Al, do you see what I mean? Thank you, good post. > Guro James wrote" Iâ?Tm unsure as to how to take Guro Alâ?Ts post.Ã, I > choose to check my own > sarcastic nature and chalk up my lack of understanding the response to the > limiting nature of email communication. > Al Sardinas wrote: â?oI do not know Lameco, DTS and Cacoy styles and I > too am > not trying to Ã, start some stuff here but from the above I deduct that > you > are not sure that no single style has Ã, everything because you end your > statement as a question. â?o I ended the statement â?oSee what I > mean?â?� > as a question to as I was inquiring if my explanation was clear - nothing > more.Ã, Ã, If you mean â?oWhat I mean is, no single style has everything > in > it, and does everything well.?â?�then, the â?oquestion mark was a > character that did not translate over email.Ã, The statement ends with a > period, not a question mark. > Again, my question was inquiring of â?oothersâ?� handling of said > situation.Ã, Iâ?Tm not so full of ego that I think I am the only one, or > the first one, to > find said conundrum and I'm curious how others handle(d) it so I can > learn...." > > Respectfully, > Al Sardinas > Student of the Garimot System of Arnis --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:20:01 -0700 (PDT) From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Serrada video To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net going up against Angel?  unauthorized color of pants?   ok, sirit (i give up).  what's the answer?   p.s.  i don't know serrada.  just dialoguing.   jay de leon www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com   --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Ray wrote: From: Ray Subject: [Eskrima] Serrada video To: "Eskrima-Digest" Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:48 AM Old popular vid of Angel performing Serrada with Leo Fong.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZmdj4HI9A For those that know Serrada, what major error is Leo making? Ray Terry EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2,700 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Serrada video Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:34:49 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Can't really see his footwork, but I suspect it is off. But he is clearly reaching out too far, too extended... for Angel's Serrada or for Cacoy's Doce Pares, imo. Ray Terry EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net On Aug 4, 2009, at 9:20 PM, jay de leon wrote: > going up against Angel? unauthorized color of pants? > > ok, sirit (i give up). what's the answer? > > p.s. i don't know serrada. just dialoguing. > > jay de leon > www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com > > --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Ray wrote: > > From: Ray > Subject: [Eskrima] Serrada video > To: "Eskrima-Digest" > Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:48 AM > > > Old popular vid of Angel performing Serrada with Leo Fong. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZmdj4HI9A > > For those that know Serrada, what major error is Leo making? > > Ray --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Al Sardinas" To: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Re:Multiple systems...; Drills Vs Concepts Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I wrote: If the system you study is based on drills from one system, drills from another system, drills period then your system will not have everything in it and will not do everything well. If the system you study is based on concepts and these concepts are applied correctly then your system will have everything needed to do everything well. Mr. Adam Baab wrote: like my auto mech teacher once said only a fool says he knows everything about something because you can always learn more about the subject. Thanks for the personal attack. Since the beginning of civilization it has been very common for people to ridicule a person or thing they do not thoroughly comprehend. Remember, the world was once considered to be flat. Therefore, I will void myself from responding with a similar response. Getting back to my original thrust: Drills are finite and have a beginning and an end. Concepts involve thinking and fortunately have no end. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of the Garimot System of Arnis --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:25:50 -0700 (PDT) From: carlos aguilar Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Serrada video To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net he needs to be tighter and he never switches his feet. while flowing. www.dakipdiwa.webs.com --- On Tue, 8/4/09, jay de leon wrote: From: jay de leon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Serrada video To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9:20 PM going up against Angel?  unauthorized color of pants?   ok, sirit (i give up).  what's the answer?   p.s.  i don't know serrada.  just dialoguing.   jay de leon www.filipinomartialartsmuseum.com   --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Ray wrote: From: Ray Subject: [Eskrima] Serrada video To: "Eskrima-Digest" Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 7:48 AM Old popular vid of Angel performing Serrada with Leo Fong.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZmdj4HI9A For those that know Serrada, what major error is Leo making? Ray Terry EskrimaDigest@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2,700 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 2,700 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://eskrima-fma.net --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray To: Eskrima-Digest Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:45 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] list down or slow Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net fwiw, I'll be out of town for several days, so the list may be down or very slow during that time. 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