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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Power and Maximum damage in Defence (Stephen Lamade) 2. Power & Maximum Damage In Defense (Eric Taimanglo) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Stephen Lamade To: Eskrima Digest Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:02:51 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Power and Maximum damage in Defence Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ideally, you'd use the smallest possible surface (edge of the end of the stick) at the maximum leverage (end of the stick) for the briefest possible time (multiple hits). When using a blunt trauma weapon you'd aim for bony targets like wrist, elbow, eye socket, fontanel, etc. The same principles are in play with edged weapons, except the edge just is the smallest possible surface, you need leverage plus a certain amount of edge to pull or push through and down into the target, and the targets include arteries and organs. Best, Steve Lamade www.northshoreac.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:30:12 +0300 From: "Eric Taimanglo" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Power & Maximum Damage In Defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Darcy, Sure, the energy transfer into the target, coupled with the potential "stabbing" of the rattan edge into the flesh or bone, given the striking surface you mentioned, is very damaging. I remember an old tape with Guro Arsenio Advincula demonstrating this when he made a dangling paper folder EXPLODE with his stick. Scientists have also said that a ball does not strike a surface once; there are two moments of impact; the initial contact, and then the second one where the ball pushes into the surface to get away; you then see the ball bounce. It makes a lot of sense to apply this to stick strikes. However, it's been my experience that this technique can't be duplicated every time while under duress. The length of the weapon can be a factor as well. I think it'd be a lot easier to consistently get the result you mentioned with a shorter weapon, say a DBMA key fob or a rolled up magazine. Respectfully, Eric Taimanglo Group Leader, Taji Kali Training Group Al Taji, Iraq This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. 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