From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Oct 27 21:15:31 2009 Date: 27 Oct 2009 21:15:31 -0500 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 1256696131 0000000000 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. From eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Thu Oct 22 17:14:25 2009 Return-Path: Received: from tarsus.bollow.ch (tarsus.bollow.ch [82.195.230.222]) by plus11.host4u.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id n9MMEOK32656 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:14:24 -0500 Received: from tarsus.bollow.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tarsus.bollow.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D52B28174; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:49:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:48:22 +0200 Message-ID: <20091023004822.29566.81664.Mailman@tarsus.bollow.ch> From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 16 #232 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<---- The Sudlud-Inayan Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list ---->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2009: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource. Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License. The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 2700 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Chicago GAT-Seminar (gatpuno@aol.com) 2. Martial arts school sued -- revisisted (Eskrima-FMA) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:23:25 -0400 From: gatpuno@aol.com Subject: [Eskrima] Chicago GAT-Seminar Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] sparring in FMA old way/GAT-Seminar in Chicago this weekend. Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:43:09 -0400 From: blillylou3@aol.com Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Aloha Bradda.My name is Brent Cash I am a student of GM Bandalan ,Bandalan Doce Pares I would be honored to play and share knowledge -Brotherhood. My 16 year old son Branden also will participate. It is GM's Bandalans teaching that we must cross sticks to be an escrimadore I respectfully understand what you are looking for not many understand the beauty in play .To many drills good for our curriculum but small part in the end. Any way I am a police officer in Monee IL #101 and I work afternoons with fri sat off. Please send directions as we would love to participate. Mahalo and Aloha Brent Kualoha Cash Brent, Here is the contact info of Fonseca Martial Arts. Guro Mike "Tandang" Eugenio
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