From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #34 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 19 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 034 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Profound Impact. the_dojang: AE? the_dojang: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #33 the_dojang: Dojang Digest V6 # 33 - John Hancock Re:Impact the_dojang: Medical Records the_dojang: Foot weapons the_dojang: RE: Impact the_dojang: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #33; RE Burnout Re: the_dojang: Foot weapons the_dojang: Profound Impact the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CMPorter@webtv.net (Chris Porter) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:48:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: RE: Profound Impact. For me the single most lesson that stands out in my mind, and has changed the way I view myself and my training was the realization that goals are a tool used soley for making forward progress. The goal itself is rather unimportant but the process of self discovery that takes place as you strive to reach your goal is really "The pot of gold" and holds all real value. Wearing a Black belt does not make me experianced, the process of self discovery that took place as I strived for this goal is what has changed me, as a martial artist and as a human being. " Knowledge is like a cup of water, wisdom a foutain." CMPorter@webtv.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:12:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: AE? > I seek not to know all the answers....but to understand the questions. > (and for bonus points on Dojang Digest jeopardy....who said that?) Mr. E=MC2? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:20:56 EST Subject: the_dojang: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #33 He was a Master's Master. And here he was...a shy, gentle, sweet old man who could poke fun at himself for his own childlike natures. That was the moment of profoundness for me. And I never forgot it. In that moment...Yang Sabomnim taught me the essence of being a Master. Wow...what a great lesson you have shared with us all, Thanks! You made my heart smile. Mary ------------------------------ From: James Clark Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:32:23 +1100 Subject: the_dojang: Dojang Digest V6 # 33 - John Hancock Re:Impact G'day all , My first post for the year ! John you have just reminded me of the how & why I now study HapKiDo. When I was about 13 I saw the movie Billy Jack and was blown away by the fight seen in the park. Anyway I later found out that what I saw was Hapkido, and the gentleman who performed these 'feats' was Grandmaster Bong Soo Han. It has taken 18years, but I finally found (and was ready for) a fabulous Hapkido school and instructor. This was. Always in the back of my mind during training and whenever I thought about Hapkido, was Grandmaster Bong Soo Han and 'that fight scene'. The more information I found out about GM Han, the more I longed to one day meet him. That opportunity came my way last year when many different Hapkido organisations got together for a seminar held and presented by GM Bong Soo Han. What a gift to be able to train with and speak with and be taught by this gentle-man and true master. But wait there's more ..... I had the opportunity to personally take GM Han and his assistant around Sydney the following day. I gained SOOOOO much from my short time with him, and will be forever gratefull for his warmth and great sense of humour. It was truly an honour ! ..... the effect it has had is my true belief I MUST become a black belt (I'm only yellow or 8th kup at present) and TEACH this wonderful gift ... to be able to give something back to Hapkido, my instructor, our association's chief instructor, and to GM Bong Soo Han who I hope I will once again have the opportunity to train with and learn from ! Thanks for allowing me this forum to thank him ! James Clark Senior Consultant Cliftons IT http:\www.cliftons.com.au ------------------------------ From: Piotr Bernat Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:55:27 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Medical Records Since I sam many letters dealing with the medical aspects of the competition in the U.S. recently, I thought it would be a good idea to post some information on how the situation is like in Poland. In my country, ALL students participating in sport TKD training are OBLIGED to visit specialized sports medical centers every three months and undergo a series of tests. After first visit, one receives a "Medical Card of an Athlete", which allows you to participate in trainings. After at least three (nine months!) you can apply for "Medical Book of a Competitor" - only after you passed EEG, ECG, blood test, reflex test ans some other things. These tests have to be done once a year, and again, every three months you have to visit a medical centre just to check if everything is OK with your health. Those who do not have "Medical Book of a Competitor" are not allowed to participate in any tournament held in Poland. The rules are very same for all the sports, from swimming to boxing. People who do not train for competition still have to be examined by a physician at least once a year. There are also additional medical tests for regional and national team members. On every TKD tournament, there has to be a doctor specialized in sports, who during the weigh-ins checks the "Medical Books" and examines the competitors if he/she finds it necessary. And there is sometimes a situation, when somebody is not allowed to compete, because something is wrong with his/her papers or health. These things are checked very carefully, because if a person without proper medical papers gets injuried in a competition, a doctor who allowed him/her to participate can be in a REAL DEEP trouble (and I really mean it...). - -- Piotr Bernat dantkd@polbox.com - ----------------- [ REKLAMA / ADVERTISEMENT ] ----------------- Do konca stycznia Internetowy Pakiet Biznesowy o 244PLN taniej. Szczegoly http://sklep.optimus.com.pl - --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:08:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Foot weapons Kurt Rommel asked about hitting with the sole of the foot with toes extended for a hook kick. My usual answer is that this is a good idea in sport karate where you just need to touch the person and the extra reach helps, but definitely not a good idea in full contact. The problem to my mind is when the sole hits something hard. A medieval torture was the bastinado, where the sole was struck by a stick. It's very painful. Kurt also asked: Another thought... Does anyone on the list know why the WTF/USTU adopted the shin-instep style of foot protector as the required style? This leaves the calcaneus unpadded. Why not use the Rheemax, Macho, etc. boot-style foot protectors which pads most of the harder striking surfaces of the foot? My answer: Those boot style protectors are more expensive, wear out sooner, and really don't provide and more protection. The heel always pokes out when you actually hit, although parents are certainly more reassured when they see them, since they look big and padded. When it comes to gloves, however, I do believe in big padded ones (my favs are actually those Chuck Norris open finger gloves, but with that center reinforcement cut out so you can do grappling with them too). I used to use cloth fist and forearm pads so that my students would learn to keep a tight fist and not get thumbs jammed, etc. Now I insist that students wear bag gloves, not to soften the blow but to protect their knuckles. Using those cloth pads really endangered the knuckles when you hit someone's elbow by mistake. Oh, and by the way, we do point fighting so using that bag glove on the other guy isn't as dangerous as you're probably thinking! Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: "Lasich, Mark D." Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:24:01 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Impact A former instructor relayed the stories of the only two times in his life that he used his martial arts "skills". Time 1: He defended himself against a not so friendly dog! Time 2: This is the one that made an impact on me: After a game of basketball, my instructor goes into the locker room. There he finds two guys beating up on a third guy in the shower. My instructor walks up to the biggest guy, and the one doing the bulk of the beating, firmly places his hand on the guy's shoulder, looks him square in the eye and says, "I think you've taught him a lesson..." Fights over, the two thugs leave! Were's the skill, you ask? Well, the impact on me is not the skill itself, but the CONFIDENCE instilled by years of training and understanding what your skills are! He didn't throw a punch, didn't lift a foot, but he did simply and quite effectively ended a conflict without a fight! I have found that as my confidence has grown over the years that I am able to tackle things I once would never consider: instructing, changing jobs, helping others "in need", etc. The same instructor once "bragged" to someone that they could push anyone in his class around, say things about them, etc...............BUT, if you backed them into a corner, WATCH OUT! Moral: people can say what they will, and perhaps a little physical taunting can be tolerated, but when it REALLY MATTERS, the experience, skill, training, and discipline *will* prevail. In the spirit of TKD, Mark.Lasich@alcoa.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:33:14 EST Subject: the_dojang: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #33; RE Burnout << Hi I was just wondering if any one out there has had any experience with burnout.... My instructor and family and people I train with seem to think that it's going to happen to me so I was just wondering.... >> Personal opinion only, burnout is not inevitable. My son’s been in Martial Arts for 9 years, been competing for 8 years. So far, we’re still waiting for all the predictions of burnout to come true.. Lots of people seem to think that you can’t do martial arts without burnout. I’d say it’s probably no different than having a regular job. If you love it and are always finding something new and interesting in it, no burnout. If it’s just a job, daily grind, and all that, you get burnout -- or, if it’s just a daily grind, maybe you start with burnout and it just takes a while to show up. :-) CBAUGHN@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:02:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the_dojang: Foot weapons > Kurt Rommel asked about hitting with the sole of the foot with toes > extended for a hook kick. My usual answer is that this is a good idea > in sport karate where you just need to touch the person and the extra > reach helps, but definitely not a good idea in full contact. The > problem to my mind is when the sole hits something hard. But in a self-defense situation you're going to have on shoes 99% of the time. Yes? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: scink Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:03:06 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Profound Impact <<< What single event in your entire martial art training, teaching or experience, has had a profound impact upon your person that you feel the effect of even to this day? >>> Hello All, I have many but I will try to address a couple. 1. I was working out with an instructor in another style. I was a black belt in ATA and WTF, by this time and I thought I knew what I was up to. Also, I had a good number of trophies, medals and ribbons by this time. He asked me a simple question. "Where does power come from?" I did not have a good answer for him. He explained how power came from the ground. That if one focuses power directly from the source to the destination it is much more effective than twisting and turning in unnatural ways to generate some convoluted form of "power". 2. Another simple concept that I did not learn till later in my martial arts practices was also very simple. "If you don't want to get hit, don't be there." This goes back to the concept I learned as a child about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. However, I never applied it till much later. I still screw this one up all the time. Comments? - -- Scott Cink scink@who.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:55:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #34 ******************************* Support the USTU by joining today! 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