From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #40 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 22 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 040 In this issue: the_dojang: tourney behavior the_dojang: Re: Ki Subject: the_dojang: Re: Ki the_dojang: Dojang Romance the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #39 the_dojang: Sparring women the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #38 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #38 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #39 the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:50:55 EST Subject: the_dojang: tourney behavior > So my feeling is it depends on your role at the tournament. > > Jamaica thanks for your response. I spoke with my friend a bit more in depth and it turns out that she has the "pleasure" of writing the speech that will open up the tourney which is to address this problem as a "nip-it-in-the-bud" approach. BTW, the tourney is THIS weekend. Great notice huh? she was asked on mon. or tues. Anyway, maybe this will help you direction further advice, which is appreciated. I told her the first hurdle, IMO is getting hundreds of people to actually LISTEN to opening announcements. I prefer the blink the lights methods to get their attention. Ideas? Comments? Dawne No1IDIC@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:19:28 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Ki scott wrote: << Can Ki/Qi/Chi be generated as a source of energy (or as the energy) without being rooted in some way? Without pushing or pulling against any objects. >> scott, it is my understanding that ki is inherent in all individuals, rooted or not. it is the channeling, focusing, or applicational use of this energy that is usually the object of meditation, designed movements, etcetera. great topic! i dont know if i took that completely out of context or not, though. if i did....just call me on it :) melinda ------------------------------ From: James Clark Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:51:30 +1100 Subject: Subject: the_dojang: Re: Ki Paul Rogers wrote : >>>>>>Relative to Korean Martial Arts, I've asked about Ki development, and was surprised at the responses I got, which were basically that meditation was taught, but Ki development (esp. in conjunction with the techniques that were being shown) was not emphasized. This particularly intrigued me with respect to HAPKIdo...8?). >>>> Hi Paul , There is a great book on Ki written by Scott Shaw , a US Based Hapkido instructor. Scott is a 7th Degree BB in HapKiDo under the auspices of the Korean Hapkido Federation. The book is very well written and it's specific focus is around Ki development. I have only just started reading it (yesterday) and as a Hapkido student find it very helpful , but I think anyone will benifit from it. Regards James James Clark Senior Consultant Cliftons IT http:\www.cliftons.com.au ------------------------------ From: Aaron J Woodburn Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:16:23 EST Subject: the_dojang: Dojang Romance John Hancock wrote: What real life experiences or actual knowledge do Dojang Digesters have of Love in the Dojang? _______________________________________________________________________ I made a mistake a year and 5 months ago and started dating a whitebelt from a school I assisted at, when the head instructor found out she was very upset. we broke up recently but not before my Kwan Chang Nim got wind of it, he said he was very dissappointed in me and needless to say it hit me hard. I was and still am a 2nd dan, and my belief is that similar ranks can date but teacher student relationships are definetely out. this is doubtlessly a western belief, probably not with the TSD tradition. sorry..... =-| AJ Woodburn Dragon102@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:31:26 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #39 Scott Cink wrote: >>>However, I would like to know what people think. <<< I'm glad to didn't ask for what I KNEW 8?). I love to give an opinion on this one...! >>>* Can Ki/Qi/Chi be generated as a source of energy (or as the energy) without being rooted in some way? Without pushing or pulling against any objects. I believe so. Obviously, there are legendary figures who can move folks around without touching them. Yang Lu Chan had many stories of this type attributed to him, and if you ever saw Bill Moyers' "The Mystery of Chi" episode of his "Healing and the Mind" series, there's a fascinating gentleman from China who doesn't appear to be especially rooted while he moves folks around. In fact (also described in Moyers' video) there is a whole branch of Chinese medicine wherein chi is used to treat/heal patients without touching... FWIW..."I want to believe..." 8?) Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX ------------------------------ From: Bernard Eddey Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:30:46 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: Sparring women We have always taught (and been taught) to spar to (or slightly above) your opponent's level of competence, regardless of sex. i.e. a b.b. should not spar a 3rd or 4th gup as another b.b. but perhaps as a 2nd gup. That notwithstanding we are also mindful of physical differences. A 2m+, 100kg male who is 'fighting' fit has a certain advantage over smaller, lighter, younger opponents who may be at the same belt level, again, regardless of sex. I have found that in my own experience sparring women to 'go easy' may lead to poor defence, and you end up with a foot in some part of your anatomy. On one occasion I did have a female opponent ask me to 'go easy' in a sparring session as she had only found out that day that she was pregnant! (This relates in no way to the 'romance' thread!). Training while pregnant - now that in itself may make an interesting topic for discussion. regards Bernard Eddey 1st Dan TKD Shanghai ------------------------------ From: "Longhorn, Andrew" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:09:28 +1100 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #38 > I can share this: Included in First Aid/CPR classes are Scene Safety and > BSI > (Body Substance Isolation). Scene Safety means that personal safety is > first > and foremost. If the scene is not safe for you to be there, then don't go > there! > Reading the other messages in this thread, this sprung to mind and then I read yours. It is true that the first rule of any aid/rescue/etc routine or plan is FIRST and FOREMOST do NOT place yourself or anyone else at risk. That means if someone has fallen down a cliff and are lodged on a rock with no easy access, DON'T attempt to climb to them, you'll end up as a hero sandwich on the ground. I would apply this first rule copiously to someone wanting to injure you, If you break their arm or leg, get out of there, they are not in a life threatening state and they could still well rip your head off. If they are unconscious, maybe I would approach, but they could be faking, they also could wake in a rage. Personally I think self preservation is first and foremost, 911 is a responsible thing to do, you remove yourself from the risk but also assist their recovery by obtaining fast help for them. I can't see how you can be sued for refusing to approach a drugged knife wielding manic to check he's breathing once you successfully knock him down to stop him killing you. But it really is a difficult question, I don't think I would want anyone's death on my hands, regardless of them attempting to kill me or my family, but it depends on whether it was a random attack or an ongoing threat also. Hmmmm. To live in fear or remorse. That is the question. I suppose you have to face the circumstance when it arises and learn to accept the decision you made and live with it. Andrew Longhorn ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:30:05 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #38 In a message dated 1/21/99 6:50:14 AM, you wrote: Laura wrote: <> Pil Sung!!!!! Peter M. ------------------------------ From: "Oh Captain, my captain" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:15:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #39 > your balance or get kicked and you fall on the bottom of your spine ... > happens. If you fall hard and just right you literally can have your > breath removed. Thanks. Someone told me that several different pressure point areas/lines/Ki channels/(or something like that) all converge on your tailbone. I really understood when I caught a light kick there during a seminar. I felt a really strange sensation of weird energy flying through my body. It was really odd and not very pleasant. > hoop earing, tons of makeup, etc. I was always taught it was a safety > issue not to wear rings, necklaces and hoop earings. I think that if someone wants to risk losing their necklace, it's up to them. > Parents and coaches screaming (literally screaming) and pushing and > shoving when there child is competing. Wished I had earplugs sometimes. always sad. > Yellow (but really white) uniforms and especially cool when they are > wrinkled on top of that. worse. > High water pants... and on.... I dunno. They're tacky and shouldn't be too high, but I really hate stepping on the backs of my pants. James ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:40:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #40 ******************************* Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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