From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #49 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 25 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 049 In this issue: the_dojang: ha ha the_dojang: Re: Bad Day syndrome the_dojang: tournament injurieS - plural the_dojang: A unique fundraiser -commission for your Dojang the_dojang: Re: Energy, medicine, martial arts the_dojang: RE: Control vs. Full Contact the_dojang: Re: TKD and Extreme sport the_dojang: RE: A good stretching reference BOUNCE the_dojang: Non-member submission from ["Perry Seto" (fwd) the_dojang: Somebody else's fight... the_dojang: Question on Hapkido Forms the_dojang: Y2K the_dojang: Ki, power the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:20:08 EST Subject: the_dojang: ha ha Well, the very first (and one of the few) 10Ks I ever ran in I finished in 44 mins (not a great time, but I could not do that now). However a lady finished just right in front of me. She was 7 months pregnant... Ray Terry>> Ray, Only a real man could admit that :-) And 44 min. is a time I could only dream of. DAwne ------------------------------ From: Arlene Slocum Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:24:10 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Bad Day syndrome > How do you handle the "bad day syndrome," when nothing seems to go right > even though you *know* the techniques or form you are working on? >With the short fuse I have, dealing with frustration was one of the main >reasons I started in TKD. So when I had (have :) a bad day, I redirect >the energy as appropriate. Deep breaths help to calm me down, while I >release the rest of the energy in strong kicks (while focusing on keeping >the anger from playing a role in the kick). Basically, I do everything I >can do to use the energy while trying to reduce the anger. I have a short fuse, too. The best thing I can do to control bad day syndrome is to practice Sun-Do (breathing meditation). I am very lucky that my TDK instructor is also a Sun Do master. The key to making Sun Do work is to practice every day. I have been practicing every day for almost 3 years. I never skip. The benefits are cumulative and, since I never know when "bad day syndrome" is going to strike, Sun Do practice prepares me to handle unexpected stress situations. In terms of Sun Do knowledge I still consider myself like a white belt, but I have seen enough of its benefits in myself to know that it is the most important martial art and, unlike any other art, I can practice it until I draw my last breath. Arlene Slocum 1st Dan Lawrence Tae Kwon Do Lawrence, Kansas ArleneS@Geoaccess.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:27:15 EST Subject: the_dojang: tournament injurieS - plural Thank you to all who gave me support (and him thoughts and prayers) when my friend was injured this weekend. He is now home recouperating and will have to deal with doctor's restrictions for a time but I feel that he is lucky overall. I just learned that there was ANOTHER injury that required an ambulance-ride a few hours after my friend left via helicopter. Yesterday the GM I work for, another parent and myself sat around discussing solutions. I think that the area dojangs that often come to this tournament should pull together a fundraising pot so that everyone gives what they can to help themselves. Especially to buy mats which were NOT present. Do any of you have experience working and networking in such a large group, say 10-15 schools? We think we may have a great idea but coordinating all those people, . All tips and hints appreciated. I want to be part of the solution and not just a complainer. Dawne ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:42:59 EST Subject: the_dojang: A unique fundraiser -commission for your Dojang Attention all martial artists. I have a great fundraising idea to pass along to anyone in the D.C., MD, VA, Delaware and PN areas. A photographer is coming to our school this month to photograph our students and families. I know you have seen plenty of photos of soccer, football and baseball teams. This is a chance to document your or your child's interest in the MAs with quality photos at reasonable prices. The dojang itself will receive a percentage of profits as commission and a thank you for your business. Additionally each Master and/or instructor receives the smallest package for FREE! And the school receives a free "class picture" of each age or belt group taken. A Year-In-Review Book is available as well and commission is rec'd for all yearbook purchases. Novelty items like HUGE posters of your child, sports trading cards and keychains are available. And much, much, much MORE. Packages are reasonably priced so you will have plenty of photos to share with family. I love the picture of my son wearing his first tournament medal! It has been hanging up for a few months now and his smile just lights the room. We are having them done again as Mother/son who train together. Anyone who is interested may feel free to contact me and I will put you in touch with the photographer. Dawne No1IDIC@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:36:06 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Energy, medicine, martial arts Michael, I needed to throw in my .02: 1. I am a Reiki Master 2. I am not a medical professional HOWEVER I have a chronically ill child (nephrotic syndrome, for those of you unaware of this stuff in short it is a long-term managable kidney disease that has taught me more about how the body works than I ever wanted to know) 3. I am a martial artist > Just as you are a Reiki master, I am a scientist (I specifically focus on > human genetics), and therefore I must comment on your comment. > > Science and csources have come to acknowledge these forces as > > exsisting (they actually have proof of ten deminsions, ki energy or > > the human energy field would be one of these - from japanese > > scientists and others). > I only know of one "scientific" study of human energy fields which has > been in the reputable scientific literature. Therapeutic touch has been > described occasionally in the literature, and has now suffered a huge > blow. An 11-year-old Emily Rosa came up with an experiment that clearly > demonstrated practicers of therapeutic touch were no better at detecting > an "energy field" than if they had just guessed. The full text (which is > actually uses minimal jargon, and is easy for anyone to read) is in The > Journal of the American Medical Association (Vol 279, pp 1005-10, Apr 1, > 1998). I do not read medical journals. It would go over my head since I do not understand the terminology, assumed knowledge, etc. I do speak with my son's doctors frequently. One of his former nephrologists moved to Houston to a pretty impressive pediatric renal program and has started reading what he could on the influence of energy (Reiki, prayer, etc.) and it's role in the healing process. Micah's pediatrician (who I swear walks on water when no one is looking, but he claims if he could, he'd make sure everyone was looking ; ) ) has also started reading the same types of materials because of the work I have done with both Micah and my older son, James, and his asthma. While I would never advocate these practices in lieu of medical treatment, I can not explain why Micah's focal schlerosis is minimal and he is steroid responsive when, by all rights, we should be on a transplant waiting list. Instead, he is healthy, happy and doing quite well. I can only attribute this to a force that I can not fathom because it is beyond human comprehension...therefore unable to be proved through human methods (ie scientific study). I can not believe that people such as Dr. Andrew Weil and other medical professionals (some whom have been asked to leave the AMA because of their very public views that prayer/energy work is a large part of healing and doctors should be trained to work with and accept this) are not valid scientists or doctors. People laughed at Weil for years and yet his homeopathic work is now being recognized as a viable alternative to conventional (read Western) medicine. I know that since I have started working with my former doctor (I was forced to switch 7 years ago when my insurance changed and a recent change allows me to now go back to him), many of my chronic health problems have since cleared up. I would also recommend the book _Hands of Light_...the author's name currently escapes me. This is a woman who's field is electromagnetics. She is a scientist that was hired by NASA to study the effect of weightlessness on the human electromagnetic field and found a scientific base to much of what is called energy work. She currently has a school in NYC area that has a 4 year program that combines the scientific information with the spiritual information. She refuses to call these fields auras because she is a scientist and doesn't like the term or the connotation it holds. This tells me that there is a hell of a lot more to the human mind and spirit than we can even pretend to know. Now...how does all this relate back to us as martial artists? The martial arts have much to do with the spiritual ends of things, otherwise it wouldn't be an "art" form. The grace and motion of forms are a moving meditation to allow the body, mind and spirit to work together in the guise of a training technique. Why is it that so many people have been attracted to Tai Chi that wouldn't think of ever joining a "karate" class? Because Tai Chi takes the martial away from the art; however, I wouldn't want to be the attacker going after a Tai Chi Master...I would get hurt. There are strikes, kicks, blocks, etc. in Tai Chi, it's just a different package than say a Tang Soo Do or Tae Kwon Do. To draw an analogy here: Sam Adams and Bud are both beers. They both go through a specific brewing process, etc. I prefer Sam because I like the flavor and weight of it. My brother in law prefers Bud because he feels it isn't as "heavy" as Sam and he enjoys the flavor. While this often leads to some interesting debates at family functions, especially when you throw in my brother that only drinks Guiness, the reality is, we are all drinking beer. We are all martial artists whether the focus is sport, martial or artist. Now, the energy stuff. Any athlete worth a damn will tell you that it isn't just the body working, it is other things. If you don't believe me, just watch the runners in the Boston Marathon go by. I'm not talking the world class types, I'm talking the guys in the middle to the end of the pack. Talk to the guys who take the meat wagon back to the finish line and they all say the things like: my heart just wasn't in it today or the mind was willing but the body was weak. All athletes have "off" days. Part of separating yourself from the weekend hacker type is working through those off days. It's a question of finding what is at the root of the matter. As an athlete, we need to learn to focus past the little things and to the big things. As a human, we need to learn to work with the little things so they don't turn into big things. As martial artists, we need to learn to find the balance necessary between the little and the big things. To give you an idea of how a little thing can be a big thing: an interesting quote I read recently said if you don't think 100th of a second can make a difference, ask the person who won the Olympic silver medal. I turn it around a bit to say ask the person who won the gold medal. Tang Soo! Karla ------------------------------ From: Greg Giddins Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:32:33 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Control vs. Full Contact >>>Years ago you were most complimented if you could generate a kick and stop it within an inch of your opponent. I'm not sure that anybody is even teaching that anymore. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com<<< Come to the Dark Side, Jamaica..... Have you ever looked in to training at a Tang Soo Do school? I have a feeling you would love it. Greg Giddins ggiddins@ossinc.net If you are living like there is no God, you'd better be right. ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:36:50 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: TKD and Extreme sport > Years ago you were most complimented if you could generate a kick and stop > it within an inch of your opponent. I'm not sure that anybody is even > teaching that anymore. > > Jamaica Grandmaster Duk Sun Son has been teaching this for almost 60 years and is still teaching this way. His organization the World Tae Kwon Do Association stresses a few strong controlled techniques. We spar non contact but black belts must use kicks capable of breaking 5-6 inches of wood and stop less than a inch from our target. Accidental contact is not frequent and usually not damaging since we usually don't miss by much. Most of us could't do a spinning kick if our life depended on it. We don't even train for tournament sparring. We are self defense oriented and practice our few techniques for use on the street. I admire the athleticism of the sport styles but it is not for me. Grand master Son's organization has been around for a long time and is very different from many of the contemporary TKD styles. Master Son has retained many of the original forms and techniques brought to Chung Do Kwon TKD by Won Kuk Lee from Shotokan Karate. If any our you are interested in seeing TKD as it was when it originated visit one of our classes. We usually teach through continuing ed programs instead of commercial enterprises. There are over 400 clubs at last count in the organization, many of which are concentrated in the north east. We keep a low profile so you may not have heard much about them. Ray Cahill Boulder, CO ------------------------------ From: "Atchinson, Kerry M" Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:03:44 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: A good stretching reference > From: Eduardo Miranda > Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:29:38 -0200 > Subject: the_dojang: Stretching Manual > > I am looking for a Stretching book or manual, If anybody could help me I > would appreciate > > Eduardo Miranda > dudamir@uol.com.br > Try _Sport Stretch_, by Michael J. Alter ( ISBN 0880118237 ). It's $15.95 at Barnes and Noble. It's got a great basic description of the physiology of stretching, with a large number of stretches described. There is also a section that correlates different sports ( e.g. MA ) to stretches that are useful for that sport. Kerry Atchinson 1st Gup WTF TKD kerry.atchinson@wichita.boeing.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:24:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: BOUNCE the_dojang: Non-member submission from ["Perry Seto" (fwd) You are subscribed as pseto@aptl.com. Ray - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: Subject: BOUNCE the_dojang: Non-member submission from ["Perry Seto" ] From: "Perry Seto" Subject: Short people got no reason to ........ Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:28:52 -0800 Yes, Melinda, I AM calling you short ...... lol (and there is a Santa Claus). Anybody who is shorter than me qualifies as short. :-) (as I closely guard my shins and knees) As Michael Sarles pointed out, and I wholeheartedly agree, there's nothing wrong with throwing nothing but punches in a sparring match - as long as it's effective. Like him, and I'm sure many others of you, I've seen entire matches go without a single punch being thrown. I wish they would get back to scoring good punches. I think the thing about this that is most frustrating to me is the lack of balance that occurs with TKD training (once again, I'm talking about the schools that concentrate on WTF/Olympic style training). (Personal opionion time) I've always believed that one should seek balance in martial arts as well as in life - both from a macro standpoint and a micro standpoint. When it comes to techniques, there should be a balance between legs and hands - knees, elbows, fists, feet, etc - they all can be used as weapons. I never claimed, nor will I ever claim, that my training has been totally balanced - TKD has always been a kick oriented art to me - but the weighting was more 60/40 or 70/30 then 99/1 I see today. I've always enjoyed watching someone block and counter with a punch (and knock the snot out of the other guy ) as much as I enjoy someone throw a beautiful turning back kick counter. THAT is what I miss with today's TKD. Anyway, enough soap box stuff. :-)) I appreciate having a forum like this where I can vent. Thanks, Ray. Oh yeah, before anyone suggests I try another dojang or style ...... I've thought about that already. For personal reasons, now is not the opportune time for me to move and/or try something else. And please don't get me wrong, I enjoy the heck out of training .... I just miss doing some of the things we used to do. Just call it an "old guy" lamenting ... or waxing nostalgic ..... as it may be. BTW, I've rectified some of this .... I've been teaching an all levels class on Saturday mornings and we've often gone weeks without throwing more than a couple of kicks (or any kicks) in a class. Lots of block - punch, block - punch .... and stance work. Once again, thanks to everyone for listening. - -Perry- ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:24:51 PST Subject: the_dojang: Somebody else's fight... I've always been taught to choose my battles wisely and even though a battle may be occurring before my eyes perhaps it's not mine to fight. I've also learned that the best of intentions and goodness of heart are not always appreciated. If you came upon an incident where someone else, say a complete stranger, was in trouble would you assist? Trouble could be anything from having a flat tire to getting mugged or maybe roughed up, to being verbally or physically assaulted. Would you be more likely to assist if you were alone or with your friends? What if you were with a loved one. Would you leave your loved one (him/her) standing alone to tend to someone else's needs? And two more, what if it were a woman that was being abused by a boyfriend, or Would you go to a friends house if they were having out-of-control marital disputes or would you call 911. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:15:24 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Question on Hapkido Forms ExtrmeTKD wrote: >As the old story goes, each member of the original group who founded kuk sool specialized in different arts (that is why they formed KSW - to benefit from eachother's knowledge).< Who were the original founding members of KSW? It almost sounds like the origins of Kajukenbo. There was an article in Martial Arts Magazines (Special Korean Arts issue) that said KSW was handed down to In Hyuk Suh by either his grandfather or father. (I forget which one). Could someone from that art tell me a brief history of the art? Jeremy ------------------------------ From: brad01 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:02:32 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Y2K > From: > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:52:00 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: M.A. schools, Y2K issue > > Hi all, > > I just want to email everyone some information about making sure there > systems will function through all this Y2K stuff! but it is a great deal > of information. So if you are interested in testing your school's > computers for the y2k bug and avoiding being part of the massive computer > crash that is being predicted, please email me stating you want info on the > y2k and the email address that you would like it sent to. I will send (in > about two weeks)out simple tests that you can preform on your PC's to see > if it will crash. > > - -Stacy > Get a Mac there is not now or was there ever a Y2K problem with them. ------------------------------ From: scink Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:14:38 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Ki, power Ben Blish wrote: > To go to the root of the thread: Power does not come from ki. Power does > not come "from the ground". Power in the martial arts is kinetic energy, > application of leverage, and most importantly, *knowledge*. The knowledge > of what to do and when to do it; the knowledge of when "not to be there"; > the knowledge to apply only as much force of any kind as to achieve the > desired goal and no more. Just to clarify, I did not intend that power literally came from the ground as a form of mystical energy that flows through anything and everything in the universe. This sounds way to much like the basis of a movie called "Star Wars". I would rather not get into that discussion. However, I meant that; in general, by pushing off of the ground, one can strike with more power or force than not pushing off the ground. Therefore, when practicing various techniques, thinking about pushing off the ground, may help to strike ones target with more force. I personally have not done a scientific experiment to demonstrate this in any way. However, I have seen this work for myself and other people. - --- Scott Cink scink@who.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:33:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #49 ******************************* Support the USTU by joining today! 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