From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #58 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 29 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 058 In this issue: the_dojang: Taking a forced sabatical the_dojang: Re: T'aegukki the_dojang: Safty Zones the_dojang: Stretching Machines the_dojang: Making Your Art Street Effective the_dojang: Abuse & Reality the_dojang: Taek'kyun the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Hancock <4karate@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:54:26 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Taking a forced sabatical Hello fellow posters. This will be my last posting for awhile (I can hear the cheers already) as the CPU comes down today and I most likely won't have net service for about a month (now cheering is one thing...but doing the WAVE is another). However...I hope to be back in February. And speaking of which....once again...don't forget to pick up the April 99 issue of Black Belt which will go on sale in mid February. Yours truely will be in it. (funny...I didn't notice those crickets chirping before) Maybe by the time I get back on line...the KI thread will have finally died (Ray...you may have to use a virtual Dim Mak strike to kill the Ki thread) Later (much) John Hancock ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 06:22:31 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: T'aegukki alain wrote: << I was asked recently about the Korean flag, so since I typed it out, I thought I'd share it with the list in case others are interested. >> thanks alain. i would also add that when the flag is hung, the solid trigram (no broken lines) is always to be located in the upper left corner. dunno why, but its just like the u.s. flag should always be hung with the blue field of stars in the upper lefthand corner. melinda full of senseless trivia and up way past her bedtime ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:32:42 EST Subject: the_dojang: Safty Zones In a message dated 99-01-29 01:40:57 EST, you write: << If someone becomes verbally aggressive and maybe downright belligerent to you what are your feelings on a safety zone to best resolve the conflict. Is it better if the person remains say 3 feet away or is it better if they move into your zone. Where do you feel you have the most control and comfort level; In or out or out of your safety margin. And is my information correct that a 3 foot radius is an acceptable zone. And when and where do you feel is the most likelihood for a physical confrontation to begin or end. Any warning signs to watch for. Jamaica >> Jamaica, Good post. I usually teach 5 feet minimum. I teach to set your boundary and not let people come into that. Example, you are walking down the street and someone who looks like he may be trouble, or someone who sets your alarm bells off starts to approach you. I teach to ask them to stop at least 5 feet away. You should ask assertively, but not aggressively. They can talk to you from there, if they insist on trying to get closer, you have the time and distance to do something else. (run or do something physical) Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: Dennis Reynolds Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:18:30 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Stretching Machines Here's a question I haven't seen on the list: What are some opinions on using a stretch machine to aid in achieving better leg stretch? I've heard from colleagues everything from "I've used one for five years and swear by it" to "For $200 I'd rather pay someone to come to the dojang and pull my legs apart for me." My interest is in using the apparatus as part of a daily stretching regimen. Thanks for your thoughts, Dennis ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:31:57 PST Subject: the_dojang: Making Your Art Street Effective What other things can a person do, etc, that will help make their art more street oriented. WITHOUT changing their style too much. Alain ______________________________________ This is a followup to my other post on this topic. Once a school has established a serious self-defense curriculum what I also see missing is a big need for environment training and awareness. Taking people outside of the dojang both in the real person and through videotapes and simulations and drills. I think many people often make an assumption of an individuals level of awareness. Sometimes we also relate to others through our own experiences and forget that they haven't come close to being exposed to different circumstances. There are many old myths that still prevail. Even people that I know that have a fair awareness level still are prone to believing if "Someone looks nice/acceptable," or sounds polite by the standards imposed upon us in our society then they must be okay and you can trust them. I also know college age and older individuals that have never left the town they were born in even for vacations. The radius of their travel is limited. They live in a different world and then something happens that takes them outside their world and it can be very frightening. I think night training should be an essential part of the curriculum. Many individuals have a fear of the night. Many people actually freeze and panic in the night even without being attacked. Your senses of perception are drastically altered during the night as opposed to the daytime. It's a different set of rules and awareness skills. I'm rather amazed that at the high incident rate of attacks and muggings, break-ins, robberies and abuse situations that occur at night that this isn't a part of everyone's studies especially in womens self defense courses. Sometimes just driving a person through a different part of the city or town and actually getting out and walking about can provide for a very awakening experience. Taking a visual tour of potentially dangerous situations is a good teaching aid. And as with all teaching I think it's important to provide the students with written followup materials that include easy to read and understand books/papers which include text and pictures. Something after the instruction ends at night that they can take home and review and post to memory so they will retain the information and be better prepared for the next class. When I was a real itty bitty on the streets and I was going to go to kindergarten all by myself (now I had to walk quite a way across busy intersections in a large city). One of the first things I was given was a visual and real exercise of people driving up to me in a car and saying "Come here little girl I just want to give you something.!" and I was trained on how to respond. I had even at that age a very inquisitive nature and my family knew it. That was my very first encounter with street smarts and I remember it vividly to this day. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "John Groff" Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:57:32 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Abuse & Reality <<>> If this is her idea of "love", baby, I'd not like to experience her version of "hate"! This ain't love, honey--it's temporary insanity. Thankfully, many communities, once made aware of problems like this, would take her children away from her (thus shielding them from their father & mother's wonderful brand of "love"). Some would even declare her incompetent and remand her to the custody of a mental health institution until she were deprogrammed (still not clear on constitutionality of this, but sounds fair), and throw her fine example of a man (ha!) into the lockup. But perhaps in the end, after her skull is finally crushed, her battered body rendered beyond recognition or healing by the man she "loves", the dimensions of her disease will finally become evident, and those who stood by, originally whispering praise about her ability to endure, her "loyalty" and "true love" for her "man", may dream about her crushed body, her extinguished spirit in the dark and private hours of the night. - --C.J. (once a victim of a mother's "love") ------------------------------ From: "John Groff" Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:00:30 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Taek'kyun <> <> Michael, Do you have an approximate location, or address? I work in (&out) of LA, and would love to find out more. . . - --C.J. ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:17:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #58 ******************************* Support the USTU by joining today! 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