From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #60 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 30 Jan 1999 Vol 06 : Num 060 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: t'aekyon II the_dojang: Re: Medical Studies on prayer the_dojang: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Seminar - Oklahoma City the_dojang: Good Luck John Hancock the_dojang: Re: abused partners in the dojang the_dojang: Self-Defense Against Hostile Animals the_dojang: T'aegukki the_dojang: History Re: the_dojang: T'aegukki the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:50:28 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: t'aekyon II Dakin wrote: <> Thanks for answering my question. I look forward to any description you can provide. You mentioned that the kicks were more circular-are they done in a thrust or snap (or both?) Take Care, Peter M. mjmpmm@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:14:31 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Medical Studies on prayer Just quickly...since I just got the information (finally) from a friend. For those of you who were interested about the effects of prayer on cardiac patients, it was done by Dr. Randolph Byrd. It was a controlled study of 393 patients in the Cardiac Care Unit at San Fransico General Hospital. I'm still trying to find out the name of the article. As I recall (it's been a *long* time since I read the summary) he had three groups: a group of patients that didn't know people were praying for them, a group that did know and a group that had no one praying. He then charted the progress of the patients and follow ups, etc. I believe he hired the people who did the praying as well. He originally was trying to show that prayer didn't make a difference, care did and was surprised at the results. The other person I was thinking of was Dr. Larry Dossey who has since left the AMA and does consulting work with hospitals helping them to design appropriate prayer/meditation space for patients, staff and visitors as well as doing workshops for medical professionals on differences between healing vs curing patients and how to work with a patient's spritual needs as well as physical needs. Thought I'd pass it on. Tang Soo! Karla ------------------------------ From: "John Bennett" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:57:14 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Seminar - Oklahoma City On Saturday and Sunday February 20th and 21st Carlos Machado will conduct an intensive two-day Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu seminar in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Don't miss this opportunity to train with one of the highest ranking Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu instructors in the US today. Mr. Machado speaks fluent English and is regarded as one of the best martial art educators in the world. The seminar will allow you to improve your existing grappling skills and supplement your regular training with new ideas. Carlos Machado travels to Brazil and Japan several times a year to work with other elite grapplers in his quest for the most innovative techniques and applications. Attend either day or both days. Participants from all styles and levels are welcomed! For more information, please contact the seminar host Rafael Lovato at (405)-942-7740 or, visit the seminar web page at: http://www.machadojj.com/carlos/seminarokc.htm Thanks! John Bennett ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:09:43 PST Subject: the_dojang: Good Luck John Hancock Best wishes and good luck, John. There certainly will be a temporary void on this forum because of your sabbatical. I look forward to reading your articles in Black Belt Magazine in February and your comments to the digest when you return. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:23:55 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: abused partners in the dojang In a message dated 1/29/99 8:11:51 PM, you wrote: <> Jamacia and all others teaching and working with abused/battered partners (I don't just say women because many men are also abused and battered by their partners but either won't or can't admit it). Abuse is a long term pattern. While logically we all say: one blow and I"m outta here, the reality is you don't know how wrong things are until it seems to be too late. Many abused partners will do anything to justify why they are there, this includes: denial (it's not that bad and when s/he's sober...) verification (I'm such a looser that I deserve this) desparation (but what else would I do?) and a variety of other forms of validation (we're soul mate, I can help them get past all this, etc.) Telling someone to get the hell out doesn't usually work. The best thing you can do is be there to help encourage the person as best you can. Help them to focus on their own accomplishments (i.e., hey, it's great you made it tonight) so they can help find the balance and courage they need to move forward. All the while gently urge them to keep progressing so that they can help find the balance they need with in themselves...part of what ma training is about. It is hard to stand by like that, but sometimes offering your opinion (I can't believe you put up with that...what are you, nuts?) can sometimes feed into the cycle of belief (I'm such a jerk, I deserve to be treated like this, otherwise I would have left....). Take it from one who knows...it only took me 8 years to get the courage to leave an emotionally abusive relationship. Ironically, it took me counseling some women in those situations to help me see what I was in myself. Tang Soo! Karla ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:58:36 PST Subject: the_dojang: Self-Defense Against Hostile Animals When I was a young child I got caught in a fight between two dogs. (Marital dispute I suspect). I was severely bitten and rushed to the closest hospital which was way out in the boondocks at the time. I was visiting and staying with some people on a farm. By the time some adults come upon the scene I was pretty well ripped. Then there is always the question of rabies and did you have a tetanus shot aside from the stichwork, blood transfusions and sometimes plastic surgery. Animal attacks and bites (by a variety of animals) have always been around but they seem to either be more noticed now because the media is bringing more attention to them and/or more people are buying dogs and other animals for protection and so the incident rate is up. In the last few weeks I've read about 2 children and 1 adult being attacked by a dog (all separate incidents). (Don't know if it was prompted by the individual or other specifics). The specifics at this point aren't as important to me as knowing what would you do if you came upon a dog attacking a child or another adult. Would your martial arts training help you help someone else or yourself in this situation? If yes, please share. Thanks. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Dennis McHenry" Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:56:13 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: T'aegukki Melinda writes: <> I believe this is true when the Korean flag is hung horizontal, but you would rotate it to the right for vertical. Therefore, the three solid lines would then be in the upper right and the red half of the Um/Yang would be on the right hanging it vertical. This does not hold true for the US flag. I have seen so many people rotate the US flag to the right, having the blue field on the upper right corner when hanging it vertical. The only proper display for the US flag is for the blue field of stars to *always* be in the upper left corner as you stated. If you are going to display a national flag to show respect, you should also know the proper way to display it. It is very noticeable to me when I walk into a dojang and see them displayed improperly. That was a good point you brought up Melenda, thanks. Dennis McHenry ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:39:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: History As for myself, I became interested in history because I wanted to know more about the present day. I'm currently finishing (hopefully) a combined Ph.D. in U.S. History and American Studies, writing on the topic of boxing and judo from 1845 to 1945. Back in 1990 I also wrote a piece on t'aekwondo history that was rather rebellious, speaking against the belief that tkd was "2000 years old." I'm afraid I wasn't very politically correct, and ticked off a number of people with the history. I revised that history for publication in the _Journal of Asian Martial Arts_ vol. 6 no. 1 (1997). It is also posted (sans footnotes) on the IU T'aekwondo Club website at: http://www.indiana.edu/~iutkd/ I spent time doing the Korean martial arts history because I wanted to know more about my system, and frankly I was quite depressed with what I found. I refer not to the fact that TKD comes from Shotokan Karate, because the martial artists who taught those arts were dedicated and because a name really isn't all that important. What appalled me was the reaction to my history from various people in the Korean arts. I guess I was very naive, but I started t'aekwondo because of the high standards of respect that it extolled. After posting that first history, I got very used to receiving flames and insults from t'aekwondo people, some of them fairly high-ranked. I really haven't done much but gather new information for a while, because that kind of response was frankly not much fun and was killing my joy in the arts. Luckily, I also was getting a chance to interview some wonderful older instructors because of my dissertation and all of them impressed me again with the dignity and respect that I always thought was at the core of the martial arts. Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:01:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the_dojang: T'aegukki > I believe this is true when the Korean flag is hung horizontal, but you > would rotate it to the right for vertical. Therefore, the three solid lines > would then be in the upper right and the red half of the Um/Yang would be on > the right hanging it vertical. I've been told by many Koreans that their flag should not be hung vertically, only horizontally. Anyone??? 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