From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #81 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 10 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 081 In this issue: the_dojang: USTU TKD events the_dojang: Flexibility the_dojang: HKD Rolls Re: the_dojang: Training with osteoporosis the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #80 the_dojang: GM Choi the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #80 the_dojang: Two Head Gears for One Contestant the_dojang: Soliciting the_dojang: Cirtisism ( I know I butchered the spelling on that, sorry ;) ) the_dojang: Thank you! the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #79 the_dojang: Knowing material for testing the_dojang: 3 step sparring the_dojang: Oppps!! 3steps Subject: the_dojang: from WTF News, Vol3 No1 the_dojang: . ......................................................................... 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:47:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: USTU TKD events 3rd Golden Seniors Taekwondo Championships 25th US National Taekwondo Championships 2nd US Junior Black Belt Festival Embry-Riddle University Daytona Beach, Florida April 9 - 11, 1999 For more info call the USTU on 719-578-4632 or visit http://www.ustu.com Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: James Clark Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:56:57 +1100 Subject: the_dojang: Flexibility Hi back at ya.. Lots of exercises but have you (do you need) to be > checked out by like a chiropractor/p.t. for maybe overly tight muscles > also in your gluts, quads, hamstrings and maybe some joint fixation > problems. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------ Jamaica, Thanks so much for the reply. In recent months I have been getting a lot of 'bodywork' done .... and not by a body shop :-) .... I found a lady in Sydney who is a Hellerwork practitioner. The overall response from my body has astounded me. I am on the tail end of the work now so anything else that gets done after this ie. chrio, PT, Sports Massage Therapy etc will be of even greater benifit now. I have two more sessions to go and after this will see how things pan out. Before this I had also found a great Sports Massage Therapist who specialises in back & neck injury rehab and prevention. Was getting very good results though there was always some small setback. The Hellerwork has really opened my eyes to the body mind connection. So much so I am now so much more aware of my body in posture and movement. But get to the point I hear you all say ... I wondered if there were specific stretches I could do to help generally with the hip/psoas area ... the hips still tend to lock up a bit though I am waiting to see what happens after the next 2 Hellerwork sessions. Thanks a bunch guys & gals ! James ------------------------------ From: James Clark Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:10:31 +1100 Subject: the_dojang: HKD Rolls Hi Dawn, Welcome to the wonderful enthralling world of Hapkido and Martial arts in general ! I had similar problems with 'cat rolls' (as we call them) on my weak side (in my case my left). Me instructor gave me a little tip which was a BIG help. When rolling keep your head turned to the side and your eyes focused on a point in that area. As you are going through the roll keep looking at that point even when your body coes over the top. With this you will tend to keep the roll going over your shoulder and continuing down (diagonally) your back. Hope this helps :-) James ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:42:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the_dojang: Training with osteoporosis > Some background: Micah (my 7 year old) was diagnosed with a long-term > managable kidney disease called nephrotic syndrome shortly before his third > birthday and has been on large doses of prednisone as a result for the past 4 > years. (Think of it this way: it's like diabetes only the kidney not the > pancreas and sodium is the thing to watch, not sugar levels. This is way > oversimplified, but I don't want to bore folks with details.) > > He began studying Tang Soo Do (with his doctor's and nephrologist's consent) > at the age of 5 and, for a number of reasons, we decided to take a break from > training at the beginning of the holidays. Micah wants to switch over to TKD > so he can represent America in the Olympics some day and I'm starting to look > into some schools and programs around here. > > Unfortunately, we discovered on Thursday that he has developed osteoporosis > due to the long-term prednisone use. (We thought he broke his foot until the > orthepedist decided to xray his other foot "to be safe"...after four years of > doctors, I know better and wish they'd stope "being safe" and just say, "I > think there's a problem.") Karla, what mg level of prednisone is he taking? At higher levels that stuff is rather hard on your bones, strength, etc. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "H. Wheels" Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:45:44 PST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #80 >------------------------------ > >From: "Longhorn, Andrew" >Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:51:44 +1100 >Subject: the_dojang: RE: Dedicated Students > >> Absolutely. The worst example I've seen happened about 3 years ago when >> one of our cho dans was leading warm up exercises for a class in which >> his >> wife, a 7th gup, and several other adults and children were participating. >> >> Our warm ups consist of a set of calisthenics and dynamic stretching >> followed by a set of basic strike and kick drills, with a short rest >> period >> between the two sets. When this particular rest period had ended, the cho >> dan instructed the class to line up. Everyone but his wife jumped up and >> immediately did so. He waited a few seconds, and, when she didn't move >> from her seat on the floor, said, "come on, get back in line, please". >> Her >> response was "I'll get up when I'm d*** good and ready". While this >> anecdote is a bit amusing on one level, it demonstrates a profound >> ignorance of the principles upon which martial arts training must be >> based, >> not to mention setting the worst example possible for the children in the >> group. Even sadder, the woman is a school teacher. Fortunately, she no >> longer trains. Unfortunately, neither does her husband. >> >I guess my biggest pet peeve is saying yeah or ok or sure or nah to >> > the instructor. Yes sir/m'am, no sir/m'am or beginning a question >> > with sir/m'am. There must be some respect that is maintained in the >> >> > dojang even if the person who you are teaching is your mother. (I >> have >> > trained my mom and she does address me as sir within the dojang.) >> >> Tang Soo! >> Scott A. Miller >> samiller@bix.com samiller@cyberenet.net >> >This is a joke right? I can't believe she would have done that! >Unbelievable. > >I suppose she was only a 7th gup, but still... > >I can't believe it. > >Andrew Longhorn Think I might be able to top that---One of my former instructors used to "screw" around with the female students, regardless whether they were married or not. During one promotion test his current female student (seperated from her husband due to her new love interest) got pissed at him and shot the "bird" at him during the test! She and one other student were up on the mat testing and she shot him the finger, many saw it. He continued with the test. When it was over, she passed her test and recieved her next belt. I transfered schools at that point. She was my friend but that was too much. Wheels ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:25:24 EST Subject: the_dojang: GM Choi In a message dated 99-02-09 21:00:17 EST, you write: << As I am interested in the history of Hapkido and of found a lot of the stories to be untrue, I would be extremely interested if anybody has seen this or any other evidence (not heresay) of Choi's presence in Japan. I would also be interested in others opinions of the history of Hapkido (please do not bring up the Hwarang of the Silla Dynasty). Kamsa hapnida, Jim >> It is pretty widely accepted as fact that Choi Young-sool lived in Japan and learned from Takeda. Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:45:48 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #80 <<>> I think you are absolutely right in pointing out that a because something is a common practice it does not necessarily make it right. We must all constantly be wary of doing the "accepted" thing rather than acting in accordance with our personal moral and ethical code. Obviously, for you, the practice of wearing patches, decorations etc. is wrong, and as such you should avoid it. However, I do not feel that this particular practice falls in the area of right or wrong (many do, but not this one). It is true that outward adornments such as patches, uniforms, stripes, and titles are meaningless in judging the true character or skill of a martial artist or person. As so many have said before, "a black belt is only a strip of cloth." If you take a way the belt, patches, etc. a true "black belt" will still know who and what they are and will still strive to practice and improve their skills, etc. Likewise, leave the patches on, and a true "black belt" will still strive to practice and improve their skills, etc. Patches and adornments can be misused as tools of mere vanity, or they can be useful for many of the reasons previously posted by other members. They serve to symbolize the achievement of goals, and hopefully the beginnings of new goals (this is especially useful for children), they can help direct new and prospective students to sources of assistance and information, they can identify students from a particular school, and the list goes on. Personally, I wear school patches on my uniform to identify my school, my instructor, and myself and to honor my instructor's wishes. I also have one "dress" unifrom than contains all the patches, etc. that have been presented to me. This is the (white, BTW) uniform that I only wear to attend special events. If I remove all the patches from all my unifroms and even tie on a white belt tomorrow, it will not change who I am, then again, the patches don't change me either. IMHO, - ---Kim ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:34:28 EST Subject: the_dojang: Two Head Gears for One Contestant Ray wrote: << From The WTF News, Volume 3 Number 1 Two Head Gears for One Contestant Contestants who will participate in the 1999 World Taekwondo Championships to be held in Edmonton, Canada on June 2-6, 1999 and Taekwondo Qualification Tournament scheduled for July 8-11, 1999 in Zagreb, Croatia shall bring the WTF-recognized protective equipment for personal use as mentioned in invitations of these two events. By the way, as to the head gear, the WTF requests that contestants bring both red and blue head gears with them. Head gear other than white? Is that a recent change? >> We saw it on either the World Cup in Hong Kong or the Korean National Team Trials tape. Looked different, but the concept (helmets to match the hogu color) worked. My big question was (and is) where would you get them? Sally CBAUGHN@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Graham Hills" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:22:13 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: Soliciting Peter M wrote 'his reaction was that wasn't it nice that his 3rd dan was so valuable.' This has to be the best answer to any of the 'dan give-away' debates I've heard. The Master is obviously not willing to enter any mud-slinging or compromise his position and in one short sentance shown his true martial spirit. Regards Graham ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:33:24 EST Subject: the_dojang: Cirtisism ( I know I butchered the spelling on that, sorry ;) ) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_918646406_boundary Content-ID: <0_918646406@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_918646406_boundary Content-ID: <0_918646406@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: GIJo66286@aol.com Return-path: To: the_dojangt@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Cirtisism ( I know I butchered the spelling on that, sorry ;) ) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:53:47 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi I have been receiving this for a while and this is the first time I am actually writing.... So please bear with me! I have been practicing Karate for about 5 years now and through out my entire "career" as a martial artist I have been on the receiving end of criticism. Sorry let me rephrase that, constructive criticism. Every now and then it would bother me a bit that my instructor would correct me more than anyone else in class, especially when I felt I was giving it my best shot. But when he said anything I found myself doing even more. So obviously I wasn't giving everything as I thought I was. I did once read a phrase that I liked and thought applied. It went something like this, Don't get upset about criticism, after all don't they only tackle the one who has the ball? I know personally that if I see someone who is dedicated and has the talent (and who can "accept" criticism) that needs help, I will try and help them, by pointing out what they are doing wrong, they know what to correct. On the same note if someone doesn't really have the ability pointing out what can be improved is pretty futile (big SAT word :) Also it is important to understand the personality traits of students, some will accept criticism and others will feel hurt.... The two types of personalities are quite distinct. Neither wrong nor right. Now that I've taken up so much space let me leave with a good-bye and keep up the good work! - --part0_918646406_boundary-- ------------------------------ From: CMPorter@webtv.net (Chris Porter) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:40:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Thank you! Good evening, I would like to thank all those that responded to my questions about rank,title,and uniforms. Reguardless of what some people think I feel I have the right to ask such questions, and I appreciate your responses. I am still looking for a "real" korean sword if any of you stumble across a source. Unranked,Untitled,OPENMINDED!!!!! Com sa ham nida, Chris ------------------------------ From: Tony Preston Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:38:34 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #79 > Unfortunately, I have two small problems. First, there is this side roll >that's been haunting me. I do it several times the "wrong" way. In this >small class there is plenty of time to explain how it *felt* and where it >hurts. This allows GM to tell me immediately what he observed and the next >two or three come out really well. Then I get a bit messed up again. Is >there anything I can do to get beyond this? They say I go more toward the >forward roll rather than the side. Secondly, I have a hard time working with >other women. I'm still getting used to the fact that its ok to hurt your >partner. [That is, they feel a small quick feeling of discomfort NOT that >they are on the floor crying.] Its easier for me to work with men b/c I guess >I feel I need to protect myself from men on the street rather than female >strangers. Also, I probably have some socialized belief that "men can take it >more". I thought I was enlightened :( What can I do about this? Thank >you, >Dawne Dawne, Practice... I study something different, but I have learned that when I start something new, I am always a total klutz... After a few days of practise it is a little better... after a few weeks, it actually starts to look ok... As for men versus women... well you reminded me of a drill we were doing when someone grabs you in a headlock and tries to punch with the other hand. There is woman black belt that was practicing with me... The technique is to shoot the hand out blocking the punch, then you pin the other hand to your chest and end up behind the person in an arm lock... Well, we were both embarassed when she grabs my hand and plants it firmly on her chest... We both let go quickly, then had a good laugh... The point is things happen when your training and you forget about them other than to have a good chuckle occasionally... Men will go a bit easier with women than with other men, at least unless they are a bit psycho...:). I have seen women be alot rougher with with each other than the men are...:) - -- - -- Tony Preston, Team *AMIGA*, Linux developer since 1996 - -- Custom Services, P. O. Box 254, Moorestown, NJ 08055 - -- The Amiga Zone BBS (609) 953-8159 ------------------------------ From: "Lasich, Mark D." Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:18:08 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Knowing material for testing FWIW: The ATA school were I train consistiently uses "pre-testing" to validate whether or not a student knows the material required for testing. This comes only after achieving the set number of classes, and is NOT a final opportunity to learn the material, but it IS the opportunity to demonstrate knowledge of the material. In fact, for the color belts, we use a system of "knowledge stripes" on the left side of the belt to show that student's progress: 1st stripe, have learned the basics (new hand and foot techniques), 2nd stripe knowledge of the rank for, etc., 3rd stripe - successfully passed "pre-testing". Sorry, but this is NOT another meaningless stripe system! You can't pre-test with one-stripe, you can't test without three stripes! It is a good system that has served us well for years! Mark.Lasich@alcoa.com I asked for everything so I could enjoy life. Instead, HE gave me life so I could enjoy everything. ------------------------------ From: "Alexander, Stephen" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:15:08 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: 3 step sparring Quick question for you all. The club I used to be at a couple of years back used to do something called 3 step sparring. My new club does not do this at all. I have been teaching 3 steps to some of the new students because I find it very usefull for learning proper blocking technique, distancing etc. I was wondering if anyone out there has some 3 step sparring drills they would like to share with me? I know the ones taught by my old master, but I am sure there are tons of them I do not know. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. To win 100 victories in 100 battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill. Gichin Funokoshi ------------------------------ From: "Alexander, Stephen" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:17:25 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Oppps!! 3steps Forgot to sign my name to that post! sorry folks! Steve Alexander To win 100 victories in 100 battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill. Gichin Funakoshi ------------------------------ From: "Turtle Press" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:49:49 -0500 Subject: Subject: the_dojang: from WTF News, Vol3 No1 >Head gear other than white? Is that a recent change? Nope, thats been going on in Korea for at least two years. Cynthia ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:10:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #81 ******************************* Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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