From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #88 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 13 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 088 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Screensavers? the_dojang: State Tournaments the_dojang: Re: Comparison the_dojang: Re: "martial spirit" the_dojang: Re: patches and stuff the_dojang: New State President the_dojang: martial /indomitable spirit the_dojang: for Syl the_dojang: single wraps the_dojang: Re: Screensavers? the_dojang: Perry & Berkeley Re: the_dojang: State Tournaments the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Gilmore Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:44:10 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Screensavers? >Anybody have any idea if there are any Karate/Martial Arts screensavers or >desktops out there? I created my own. My office Macintosh uses a shareware screensaver called DarkSide of the Mac which allows build-your-own screensavers using imported PICtures and/or (QuickTime) MOVies. I have a picture of our Chiefmaster doing bahm (snake) technique drifting around the screen. Sincerely, Steven Gilmore San Antonio, TX, USA ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:08:52 EST Subject: the_dojang: State Tournaments OK, now that it is "put up" time, and I have to do the state championships, tell me, what in your opinion would you like to see at a state tournament. We are planning on having supervised child care. We are giving 15 scholarships to the tourney for those with financial need. We are in the process of getting commitments from 4 teams to compete (at the OPEN portion). We have mats and electronic scoreboards. But we are going to have to do medals instead of trophies as we have no money. Do you think that makes a difference. We are not big on introducing everyone, it takes so much time and everyone pretty much already knows everyone anyway. Ideas? Ronda J. Sweet OSTA President ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:04:00 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Comparison Syl wrote: >> Anyway, what I wanted to ask, was, what do you think of comparing your ability(when in certain belts) to others in that same belt? Does the same belt necessarily always indicate the same level? I mean, obviously, a thirteen year old black belt and a thirty year old black belt will probably have differences in power, but I was thinking more in terms of the lower levels. >> Well, all things in moderation. There is a lot we can learn obviously from comparing our technique to others. If someone has a particularly good spinning hook kick, or does a form outstandingly well, it's logical to try to watch them and figure out what makes their technique so good and if you can incorporate that into your training. But, we are all different people. No sense at all beating yourself up (mentally or physically :) because you don't do something exactly like someone else does and you think they are better. Maybe some things they are better at, some things you are better at. All x belts are not doing to be the same, there will be a range of different capabilities of different people. If thsi were not the case, there would be no sense in having any sort of competitions, since anyone would perform exactly like everyone else at their rank. Learn what you can from others, but be yourself, the best you can. About the person giving you sparring tips, I think someone else was talking about this recently too, personally I have found this to be the single biggest help to me in sparring. Having someone sort of coach you when you spar with them is a lot more helpful than a sort of lecture format beforehand or after, although those are good too. Sandy - -- tokay@netwurx.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:08:08 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: "martial spirit" Perry, I totally agree with the way you say martial spirit is the most important category. Your description of your club's grading system prompts me to ask the question, to you and you other instructors on the list, do you show these grades to your students, or just tell them if they passed? I know my instructor uses similar forms, but we never see them again and nothing specific is discussed after the test. You just pass or you don't. (Well, people rarely don't pass, and when that happens, I'm sure he does discuss it with them, but this has never happened to me). Human curiosity makes me wonder what he's been writing on these things. Sandy - -- tokay@netwurx.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:21:58 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: patches and stuff My 2 cents, Jamaica, nothing wrong with treasuring your material items. After all, you treasure them for what they symbolize otherwise you would just have gone out and got some patches and stuff and not spent all this time continuing to train... that is really what it's about. Me, I'm not much of a material person - and I do not say this in any sort of self promoting way, it's really more like a character flaw that annoys my husband when I don't care about getting new furniture :) - but I do have all my old belts saved in a box except for one that was stolen out of my car. I wish that hadn't happened. Replacing my sparring gear was expensive and inconvenient, but not nearly as disappointing as losing my red belt. Except for belts, our school doesn't go in for getting special patches for ranks or anything. I got 2 patches when Ray first started collecting them, and sent him 1 and kept 1 which I haven't put on a uniform. If I ever move away from here and have to leave the school, though, it will be nice to have it to remember. Sandy - -- tokay@netwurx.net ------------------------------ From: Gregg London Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:15:59 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: New State President Congratulations to Oklahoma's newly appointed USTU State President - Ronda J. Sweet (aka Lady Taekwondo). With the backing of USTU President Sang Lee, there is no stopping her! Very best wishes, Gregg London - -- Gregg London Consulting Internet/Notes Development http://www.glondon.com Corporate/Trade Show Magic 301-515-1724 Tournament Automation Services ------------------------------ From: "Perry Seto" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:25:15 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: martial /indomitable spirit Sara: Thanks for the input. Martial arts have always been as much about spirit, philosophy and mental attitude as it has been about physical skill. The physical training is used to train the spirit as well as the body. I'm glad to see others with the same attitude. - -Perry- pseto@aptl.com ------------------------------ From: "Perry Seto" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:47:59 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: for Syl First of all, thanks for the plug, Sally. Some coincidence that I posted that remark on the same volume as Syl's question. :-)) >> Anyway, what I wanted to ask, was, what do you think of comparing your ability(when in certain belts) to others in that same belt? Does the same belt necessarily always indicate the same level? I mean, obviously, a thirteen year old black belt and a thirty year old black belt will probably have differences in power, but I was thinking more in terms of the lower levels. << Syl, If you haven't already, please read my post from that same edition as yours. Personal opinion: I think that each belt represents a certain level of minimal physical skills, but that is not the important thing. It's your spirit that is the most imprtant thing. You need to train your mind and spirit as much as you do your body. Not everyone will start nor finish their martial arts "career" with the same physical skills. As with ALL of humankind, EVERYONE is different. And, as you go through YOUR life, YOUR physical abilities will change. I can't do some of the things now that I could twenty years ago ... for many reasons ..... but realistically ... age and time (the lack of training time anyway) have a way of catching up with many of us. I don't think that makes me any less of a martial artist ... a diffferent one physically ... but the spirit remains as strong as ever. So what do I think? Go ahead and compare yourself to the other students. Take note of their abilities, what they can and can't do. But ..... do not be discouraged. Use these comparisons to learn. I've never hesitated to look to another as an example of how I think something should be done "properly". Everyone has certain techniques that they perform best. Look at the best of the best .... emulate them ... use them to learn. But don't compare your ability to them in a negative way. Just because you can't do a technique as well as someone else (and often times that's just in your own mind), that doesn't make you any less of a martial artist. I learned a long time ago ...... there's always someone out there who is faster or stronger or can kick higher .... but that doesn't make them "better" - I hope you know what I mean - I can ramble too. :-)) Train your spirit, that's how you'll be a true martial artist. Anyway .... hope that helps. If not, at least I got a chance to ramble again. :-))))) You can always email me privately if you want anymore "sage" advice (only if you're masochistic) :-)) - -Perry- pseto@aptl.com ------------------------------ From: "Perry Seto" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:50:39 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: single wraps Thanks for the info, Piotr. I find your remarks interesting. I train in WTF style .... and it's only been there that I've seen the single wrap belts, but, to tell you the truth, I don't know too many ITF stylists here in California. Any of you California ITF guys have any comments regarding single wrap belts? Do any of you use them? - -Perry- pseto@aptl.com ------------------------------ From: Piotr Bernat Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:51:42 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Screensavers? >From: Greg Giddins >Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:59:43 -0700 >Subject: the_dojang: Screensavers? >Anybody have any idea if there are any Karate/Martial Arts screensavers or >desktops out there? Visit the KTA site at http://www.koreataekwondo.org and take a look in their gallery... Yours in Computers & KMA, - --- Piotr Bernat dantkd@polbox.com ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:40:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Perry & Berkeley I couldn't remember if I had thanked Perry already, but I wanted to make sure I did! Thanks, Perry, for all the info on the Berkeley program. I'm sorry it has not yet received the funds from Korea -- I hope you guys make the deadline! As far as advice on raising a $1.5 million -- I'm afraid that's not my area of expertise! :) I would think the primary goal would be to hit up the alumni for it, and not just the Kinesiology alums either. This is a big deal for Berkeley, and they ought to support it. My only other suggestion would be a lot of charity functions (kickathons for muscular dystrophy, tournaments for special olympics, etc.) where the percentage of profits that does not go to the charity goes into a college account earmarked for the matching funds. Again, good luck! Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:01:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the_dojang: State Tournaments > But we are going to have to do medals instead of trophies as we have no money. > Do you think that makes a difference. I've been told that medals are more 'traditional'. Several previous Korean masters have said that. I guess they didn't do trophies in Korea, at least not in the 'old days' ('60s). So there is some room for spin there... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:06:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #88 ******************************* Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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