From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #90 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 14 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 090 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #89 the_dojang: Relocating: Ken the_dojang: Ideas on State Tournament the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #89 the_dojang: Downloads the_dojang: Re: Symbols - TDD V6 #89 the_dojang: In Harm's Way the_dojang: kisses the_dojang: Trophies & medals the_dojang: for Syl the_dojang: Re: screensavers and stuff the_dojang: Re: osta presidency the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:20:53 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #89 In a message dated 2/14/99 10:16:29 AM Central Standard Time, the_dojang- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Congratulations. How's the medical care going to be covered? Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com >> We have EMT's, my own personal choice for medical. They deal with emergencies all the time. And for those in OK - we will be having Senior State March 13th at the Poos TKD gym - starting at 11 am - registration and weigh-in from 9:30 - 11:00. Only those referees who have a current referee certification will be allowed to referee. We will also be using the new Poos electronic scoreboard. ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:32:39 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Relocating: Ken Thank you Ken. I was thinking once I get a confirmed job at a new location that I would tell the students. But untilI get a position in a new location I will be here and the school will run. Hopefully, I will have a month to tell them (I do think that time frame is fair), at the latest 2 weeks. I will be telling one of my students way in advance, but not the junoir ranking students (I have five students, 2 are family, two have been with me for about a year, and one just signed on). The two junior student don't have a strong Martial arts network to continue practicing so I will be seeking out an instructor for them. Hopefully, they will not feel strongly betrayed and we will stay in touch. Thank you all for your advice! - -Stacy ------------------------------ From: Gregg London Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:31:44 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Ideas on State Tournament Good Day, Per Ronda's need for "Ideas on State Tournaments": Medals are a great idea, and are actually the usual award at most State events. Besides, most parents find the Medals easier to transport and less of a dust catcher. Opening ceremonies should be brief: Pledge of Allegiance perhaps, a short "thanks for coming", and a tape of Michael Buffer saying: "let's get ready to rumble!". Besides, the money spent on Plaques of Appreciation and other non- essentials could be better spent paying Referees (a truly thankless job!). Before gyoroogi (sparring), how about a fifteen minute explanation of the competition. Assemble two competitors, a center referee, a corner judge, and an announcer. This group could illustrate what a valid point is (and is not), what constitutes a penalty and what is the appropriate hand signal, and basic concepts of how a ring and it's personnel work. Obviously it will be repetitious for some, but for those new to a WTF/USTU event, it may prove worthwhile. Do away with T-Shirts and other souvenirs that cost the Tournament money and produce little income. Invite a catering company to handle the food concessions for the day, and make them responsible for having enough food to last. Charge them a modest fee (and I mean modest!) for their work. This way, you have no expense, but make some money. And insure that they serve healthy foods, such as fruits, vegetables, and power type drinks; instead of fried rice, kimchee, and egg rolls. A State Tournament, by nature, is one that everyone has to attend. So ANYTHNING that can make the tournament run smoother is necessary. Day care is a nice idea. Another idea, that no one I know of has ever implemented, is a guarded area for equipment bags. Only badge-holders (competitors) would have access. That way, you could free up the stands for more spectators. Just some suggestions. Respectfully, Gregg London - -- Gregg London Consulting Internet/Notes Development http://www.glondon.com Corporate/Trade Show Magic 301-515-1724 Tournament Automation Services ------------------------------ From: John Hancock Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:39:29 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #89 > Happy Valentine's Day to all you sweethearts... :) > > Ray Terry > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Let's all give Ray a big sloppy wet kiss! "SMMMMMOOOOOOCCCCHHHHH!!!" Hey! I think I felt tongue there. ------------------------------ From: John Hancock Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:55:54 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Downloads This site has a really neat desktop theme. The screen saver is so-so...but the desktop theme is cool. It turns your icons and cursors in things from the martial arts such as yin/yang symbols, spears, PauKua signs...and the sound effects are neat too (when you put something in your trash...it breaks the icon of the slabs of tiles...and when you clear it...it kihaps and resets the tiles). Try it. http://www.dragonslist.com/ let the page load then click on the button on the left that says fun and games. Scroll down the next screen to the jump-link to downloads. There are two to choose from. Download and then just open the exe file and start it up. OH...you do need msPLUS to make this work. John Hancock ------------------------------ From: Ben Blish Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:35:00 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Symbols - TDD V6 #89 Karla Wrote: >The next time you see someone's uniform with patches, colors, symbols, etc. >remember, to you it may mean little or nothing, but the person wearing them, >they are so much more. Exactly so. And I believe that they should also be so to the onlooker. - --- My position on this whole patches/belts/stripes/uniforms thing is that in choosing *not* to wear the accouterments of rank, progress and identification, one makes a *very* symbolic choice, one that is in and of itself, more "noisy" visually in many cases than those using those symbols - because it creates a stand out, and because a role model that is unusual is more striking mentally than one that is not. A Canadian rock band (Rush) wrote: "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." This is a very similar thought to how I view all of this. If you choose not to wear these symbols, you *still* have chosen a symbol. Personally, I find it very useful to "read" someone's uniform; it's like a little preview of what experiences the person presents themselves as having had, and it serves as the vestigial beginnings of a structure to hang both your expectations and your surprises on. Your expectations will land right in the mental framework, and the surprises will expand the structure in ways that you are unlikely to forget or ignore. I also support the wearing of patches that make it easier for visiting masters, instructors and students who don't speak the language well (or at all!) to get the same kind of read I do. For instance, when a Korean sees a Moo Duk Kwan or Ji Do Kwan patch, a four-stripe belt, or a WTF symbol, they have a head start on reasonable expectations. I have another observation, made on behalf of my students. These symbols serve as a sterling means of "breaking the ice" between a medium level student and a new acquaintance. I teach my students to make a *point* of asking, as a part of any initial conversation, "What's that one for?", and in so doing, I have intentionally brought into play an "icebreaker". They know (because I warn them) that they won't always get a good or complete answer, or even any knowledge at all, but the situation is a step forward socially and this promotes the students, the art, and both people's personal development. In counterpoint, I teach them what every patch, stripe and color means in our own context, and I explain that as the context changes, so will the interpretation so it is incumbent on them to know why *we* award various symbols, so that there is no confusion about meanings in the future. They get written notes on this as well, memories being what they are. When I see someone who is an advanced martial artist who has made the choice to eschew all, or most, of the symbols that we expect to see in their art and position, my mental framework for them begins with the observation that this person is at least partially "closed" and I become very curious as to the justifications they will put forth for this. And so one of the very first topics that I will bring up with them is "Why the Spartan appearance?" I've heard a lot of interesting answers, but thus far, not one has been convincing. That's my 2 cents. :) "30 years of training, 3 languages, several more dans, several arts, and so what, anyway. :)" - --- Ben Blish Mi Kuk Tae Kwon Do Ji Do Kwan - -> bblish@dojang.com [or] - -> bblish@blackbelt.com [or] - -> bblish@glasgow.com [or] - -> 2blkbelt@nemontel.net ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:11:40 PST Subject: the_dojang: In Harm's Way If you are a coach and you take students to a tournament where there is no medical - 1) are you liable if one of your students gets hurt because you did not encourage them to leave? 2) You take your students to a tournament and there is no medical. The following month the same person who held the first medical-less tournament, holds a second. One of your students gets hurt at the second tournament. Are you the coach liable, since you knew that this tournament organizer was negligent and did not provide medical? Could you be sued for encouraging students to go to the second tournament if someone gets hurt at the second, because you had prior knowledge that there was a good chance there would be no medical personnel, based on the previous month's precedent? R.S. ===================================================== IMHO..... The definition of the word coach has some very universally accepted definitions that come with it. Many people interpret the coach to be a surrogate parent. With just that interpretation alone comes many expectations of which some are the care and safe keeping of the student both physically and mentally. I believe these definitions would be more strictly enforced if the child was a minor as opposed to a young adult or adult competitor. But this wasn't mentioned. A coach should know before hand what environment they are bringing the competitor into. It should be checked out prior to the tournament. For me anything less unexcusable and the very only exception I would see would be a first time coach not knowing be a that was just learning the ropes or was a quick substitute. But I still find that a flimsy excuse. Sort of right up with "Gee Officer I didn't know I was speeding." Ignorance typically in the eyes of the law does not excuse the person. If the tournament does not have medical care I think a written statement from one school to the hosting school should be written. I think individual letters from the coach should be written both to the hosting school and to the state president with copies to the national organization. If participating at the tournament I would circulate a petition to parents, coaches and everyone else in attendance stipulating this would not be acceptable in the future. If the tournament does not have medical care then I think the school and/or the coach from whatever school is sending the student should bring their own medical personnel. If this is not possible then contact should be made with the local medical agencies to ensure that someone will be available. Know the Hotline number to the emergency services, know where the phone is, have a cell phone on your body or get a beeper and the pager number of an MD on call in the area. Apprise them of the situation. Get their permission to call if necessary. Followup with thank you letters. Depending on your particular business arrangements hiring your own medical personnel could quite possibly be written off as a business expenditure. By participating in tournaments that do not have proper medical personnel I believe we are all accomplices in keeping this behavior active. I think we need to make people held accountable for their actions. Just brining a student to a tournament is putting that person in harm's way. It's an already established fact that martial arts sports carries with it a high risk of injury and because of recent situations makes it even higher. I believe not to take some type of personal action is negligence. IMHO, again! Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:55:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: kisses > "SMMMMMOOOOOOCCCCHHHHH!!!" > > Hey! I think I felt tongue there. You'd probably like that just a bit tooooooooooo much... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:24:27 +1000 Subject: the_dojang: Trophies & medals <> In WTF tournaments in Australia. medals are the normal recognition, with gold. silver & bronze (coloured :-) not real) medals awarded. If tropies are awarded it may only be a few for the whole tournament - best fighter etc. Those medals are a lot easier to store than a bunch of 2 or 4 ft trophies - it makes much more sense. Jim Muir http://www.taekwondoaustralia.org.au jim.muir@dao.defence.gov.au ------------------------------ From: "J. Dudley" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:29:45 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: for Syl Hi, Syl. When I first started TKD there was another woman there, my age, who seemed to pick up on everything faster than I did. We got along fine, but I often found myself comparing myself to her. "How come she picked up that technique so fast and I still can't do it properly? How come she's being asked to demonstrate that form?" etc. I was able to get myself out of that mindset by saying to myself, "If I ever have to use this stuff in the street, she won't *be* there to be better than I am, or not as good as, or to help me, or anything else. So I have to be able to do these things the best I can, to my own satisfaction." Interestingly, this followed the pattern some other posters have listed - she seemed to get everything quickly while I started off slow and clumsy, but her techniques seem never to have matured. Whereas, I started off looking pretty "hopeless," now, two months from my black belt test, I am much, much better. So does anyone else remember approaching your black belt test and boring the socks off of your loved ones because that's about all you're talking about... and even when you are temporarily not talking about it they can pretty accurately guess that you're thinking about it...? Jane jdudley@inna.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:18:06 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: screensavers and stuff In a message dated 2/13/99 10:07:10 AM Central Standard Time, the_dojang- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I created my own. My office Macintosh uses a shareware screensaver called DarkSide of the Mac which allows build-your-own screensavers using imported PICtures and/or (QuickTime) MOVies. I have a picture of our Chiefmaster doing bahm (snake) technique drifting around the screen. >> adobe photodeluxe has that option too. i swiped some of the pictures off of the taekwondo cd-rom i have. makes a pretty good screensaver. i swiped yet another pic off that cd-rom for my desktop (two guys mirroring sidekicks with "taekwondo" in hangul in the middle. i do know that there is an aikido screensaver out there. unfortunately, i erased the link as i remember thinking that it wasnt very good at the time. i also discovered (and for those of you who knew this...please dont laugh :)....that IE 4.0 allows you to have an active desktop. so i've been swiping little animated gifs off the net and have all sorts of little tkd characters jumping all over my desktop now. by the way, john hancock, i stole yer bull :)...at least i think i got that from your site....lol. ;) melinda chunjido@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:20:30 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: osta presidency << Ronda J. Sweet OSTA President >> congratulations master sweet. you deserve it. melinda chunjido@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:38:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #90 ******************************* Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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