From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #106 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 22 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 106 In this issue: the_dojang: re: Turning / Roundhouse kick the_dojang: Re: kids in the class the_dojang: Geneaology Question the_dojang: HKD, KSW, HRD class format the_dojang: Genealogy Question the_dojang: Who Is/Was your Greatest Opponent? the_dojang: Exhibit Booths and Product Demos the_dojang: grandma and kid teaching. the_dojang: Instructor/Student Rights and Obligations the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arlene Slocum Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:46:58 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: re: Turning / Roundhouse kick >Forwarded message: >From: James Clark >Subject: Turning / Roundhouse kick >Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:37:38 +1100 >Hi gang, >About 1/2 of the time I do this kick I have a problem keeping my knee ABOVE >the height of my hips to get the right execution of the technique and the >right power behind it (power generated with/by hips as opposed to just the >leg). >Can anyone help with any suggestions .... any at all ? :-) >Thanks bunch ! >James Clark >Senior Consultant >Cliftons IT James, you're not going to like this suggestion, but I do it and it works: Get a chair (not swivel) with four legs and no armrests. An inexpensive metal folding chair is perfect. Sit on the chair and grip the seat with your hands. Bring your knees up and touch your shoulders (actually, touching the collarbone area would be good enough). Repeat this until you can't do it anymore. In between repetitions do not touch your feet to the floor. It's kind of like doing crunches in a sitting position. The first thing I noticed was strain in my lower back. I also felt stress in my upper thighs from not being able to rest the weight of my legs on the floor. This exercise not only helps your flexibility but it builds up your lower back, which is my main purpose for doing it. You will have better execution not only of roundhouse, but of other kicks if you do this. I am presently building myself up to do 4 sets of 50 reps each day. Currently I can only do 2 sets of 50. Like any other calistenic, you should build it up slow to avoid serious injury. Hope this helps. Arlene Slocum 1st Dan Lawrence Tae Kwon Do School Lawrence, Kansas ArleneS@Geoaccess.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:43:55 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: kids in the class In a message dated 2/22/99 1:27:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > we do only simple body conditioning (full-range stretching is > not appropriate for tiny bodies); very simple kicks (knee, front, inside > crescent, axe, and back), very simple hand strikes (punch, palm strike, > spear hand, knife hand, ridge hand, elbow), simple blocks... occasionally > we walk through small components of the first hyung although I have > absolutely no expectation that any of them will learn it entirely or be > able to perform it properly (trying to get parents to understand that their >4 year old will not memorize a 62-movement hyung is surprisingly >difficult!). Simple breakfalls (front, back, side, twisting, shoulder roll) >and acrobatics (2-handed cartwheel) Steven, this curriculum sounds very enticing to me. It actually incorporates things I hadn't dreamt of at that age. Of course as an orange belt what do I know about curriculum? IMO you've made my point for me. The program has to be tailored to the age of the students. All of what you stated above are what draws the average parent -I would guess- into your program or others that are similiar. I haven't watched a 4 yr. old class but as my daughter approaches that age I will. I like the idea of classes grouped by age because you have a feeling how it will go when you walk onto the mat. An instructor's expectations would be diff. depending on the class. when I work with my son on reading it is with a different approach than I use with adults learning to read. I believe our GM can switch easily between the approaches nec. in any given night. Doing that with a smile is what sets apart a teacher, IMO. Katie already adores him and I rarely see kids being blatantly disobedient. >>I have had I don't know how many arguments with parents who want me to let their 2-year-olds into my classes ("well, my child is big for his/her age and much smarter than the average 2 year-old"...fine... enroll him/her at Montessori). These are the same parents who enroll their kids in piano lessons AND ballet AND ice-skating lessons AND reading classes. When does the kid have time to be a kid? And who am I to tell them that their parenting is wrong? Boy I don't envy you. With parents like this who could enjoy any activity. I bet you have to be careful with certain kids in how you correct them, huh? Dawne ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:58:08 PST Subject: the_dojang: Geneaology Question I guess this is primarily for out virtual historians. When you post you obviously must have done some incredible research and I know a few of you posted about how long it took you to accumulate the data and how you became interested in it. But during your historical voyage was it easy or hard to find out the lineage of certain martial artists? Were some more difficult than others? What types of research and sources did you have procure? Did you have to travel to Tibet for 7 years and cross the Red Sea or maybe go into the deep dark dungeons of prisons and promise your first born? Or maybe you are really gifted with the exploration of the internet and found everything at your fingertips.... Have any of you developed actual family trees? Thank you. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:09:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: HKD, KSW, HRD class format For those of you active in HKD/KSW/HRD, would you describe a typical class format at your school? Especially for the lower belts. I'm looking to making some changes so I'm anxious for your good ideas... Thanks. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:11:08 PST Subject: the_dojang: Genealogy Question This question is for our virtual historians, many of whom posted how long it took to acquire your information and how you became interested in the study of the histories of various martial arts. Along your historical voyage did any of you trace the lineage of certain families and develop actual family trees? Were some families easier to trace than others. If they weren't was it because of a lack of resources or an unwillingness to share? Perhaps they wanted lots and lots of money for the information? Were some cultures easier to trace than others and what would you attribute that to? And where did your back to the future trips take you? Did you have to go to Tibet for 7 years and study with monks, maybe go into the deep dark dungeons of some prisons to find the original works or are you an expert of traveling through the internet and found all the information at your fingertips. Thank you. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:43:56 PST Subject: the_dojang: Who Is/Was your Greatest Opponent? Who is/was your greatest opponent? Is it yourself? Certainly a formidable adversary. :) Is it someone you competed against at a tournament? Did you or they win? If they won and they were awesome what was it about them? Someone in your dojang or perhaps from another school., ie a friendly competitor or then again, maybe not! What's your greatest challenge with this opponent and how do you plan to overcome it? Or do you? Seeing me before him, The enemy attacks, But by that time I am already standing Safely behind him. (Morihei Ueshiba) Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:39:23 PST Subject: the_dojang: Exhibit Booths and Product Demos This question really is for small and large schools. When you put on a tournament do you have exhibit booths or an exhibit room? Do you contact sales reps from say Century, Macho, Adidas, Otomix,or some of your local vendors to come in and display state of the art products like Bob, the newest headgear and vests, workout bags and paddles? Do you provide time or space for a demonstration of these products? Do any of your local sports vendors set up booths? Has it worked/not worked? Do they provide discounts? Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Longhorn, Andrew" Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:23:29 +1100 Subject: the_dojang: grandma and kid teaching. > We are very lucky, in that her Grandmother has no desire to train, but > loves > to watch and loves to look after > our daughter, so she feeds her, changes her, while I teach and the rest of > the family train. > > She does try and get on the mat when no-one is holding her. > :) I thought I'd point out that The last sentence is referring to my daughter, not her grandma! :) > , we usually > have anywhere from 12 to 20 4-8 yr olds in that class which is a beginner > class(after you have had two belt tests you have to go to a different > class). > I just opened a new centre, did a huge promotion drop and last night ran the second real "class", I had 16 students, 4 of which were existing students from another of my gyms who came to train, the rest where all new beginners, with about 2 of them being over 10 years old. so I had 10 under 10 years old. and this was their 2nd ever class. We went non-stop for 1.5 hours and covered the entire white belt curriculum of stances, punches, patterns, free-sparring, kicks, etc. Without a break. Only one kid at the back stepped out of class for a few seconds, but she was new and very young and I was forgiving! :) I had the undivided attention of these juniors, partially because they were new to it and there was a novelty factor for them, but also because I ensured I kept the entire class dynamic, exciting, fast and powerful, yet informative and fun. I was very pleased when I saw all but two doing virtually everything well enough to be graded, those two just had a little trouble with left/right co-ordination, but they started getting it by the end. Kids have the aptitude to learn an amazing amount and learn very quickly, they just have to be in the right environment. Andrew Longhorn ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:45:50 PST Subject: the_dojang: Instructor/Student Rights and Obligations I believe in all things in life there should be reciprocity. With that said when students enter your home or school for instruction what do you believe are their rights and what do you believe are their obligations back to the school. I am not talking about the tenets of a particular style of martial arts but the personal traits and belief systems that operate your school. And what do you believe are not only your rights as an instructor but your obligations back to the student. I would also be most interested in the students perspective on this even if you are not an instructor. When you signed up for a particular martial art what did you feel were your rights and what did you feel were your obligations to the dojang and to your instructor and other students. If there are none, please also elaborate on that thought. Thanks a bunch! Always, Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:04:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #106 ******************************** Attention USA WTFers! Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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