From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #107 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 23 Feb 1999 Vol 06 : Num 107 In this issue: the_dojang: My Computer Lied - Sorry! the_dojang: Re: kids in the class the_dojang: Re: HKD/KSW/HRD Class Format the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #104 the_dojang: Student Perspective the_dojang: Re: Master Hancock's article the_dojang: Re: Geneology the_dojang: arlene the_dojang: Re: the new guy the_dojang: Machado Jiu-Jitsu Seminar - Conroe, Texas the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Steven Gilmore Date: Mon, 22 Feb 99 20:03:12 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: kids in the class >> we do only simple body conditioning (full-range stretching is >> not appropriate for tiny bodies); very simple kicks (knee, front, inside >> crescent, axe, and back), very simple hand strikes (punch, palm strike, >> spear hand, knife hand, ridge hand, elbow), simple blocks... occasionally >> we walk through small components of the first hyung although I have >> absolutely no expectation that any of them will learn it entirely or be >> able to perform it properly (trying to get parents to understand that >their >>4 year old will not memorize a 62-movement hyung is surprisingly >>difficult!). Simple breakfalls (front, back, side, twisting, shoulder roll) >>and acrobatics (2-handed cartwheel) >Steven, >this curriculum sounds very enticing to me. It actually incorporates >things I >hadn't dreamt of at that age. Thank you for the compliment. The curriculum I use is the product of experimentation with the standard Kuk Sool Won junior curriculum; I immediately deleted items that I thought were too dangerous or would take too long to convey. What remained I then tried; that which didn't work easily in class (side kick, for example), got cut. All the kicking and handstrikes are done stationary or moving, straight-line, with simple 180 turns. I try to vary it a little from class to class, for variety, but not so much as to topple their developing notions of "how it works." The kids LOVE the mat work, and most of them pick up a decent 2-handed cartwheel within a month. >>I have had I don't know how many arguments with parents who >>want me to let their 2-year-olds into my classes ("well, my child is big >>for his/her age and much smarter than the average 2 year-old"...fine... >>enroll him/her at Montessori). These are the same parents who enroll their >>kids in piano lessons AND ballet AND ice-skating lessons AND reading >>classes. When does the kid have time to be a kid? And who am I to tell them >>that their parenting is wrong? > Boy I don't envy you. With parents like this who could enjoy any activity. >I bet you have to be careful with certain kids in how you correct them, huh? Actually, because this class is on a month-to-month renewal basis with a waiting list about 15 people deep, I have the luxury of controlling the enrollment. If you don't like the way I teach it, I am very sorry... perhaps you will find a more suitable classroom environment elsewhere... and believe it or not, most parents think I am not strict enough with their kids! Sincerely, Steven Gilmore San Antonio, TX ------------------------------ From: Steven Gilmore Date: Mon, 22 Feb 99 20:38:28 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: HKD/KSW/HRD Class Format >For those of you active in HKD/KSW/HRD, would you describe a typical class >format at your school? Especially for the lower belts. This is the standard 60-minute adult beginner/intermediate format I use in my Kuk Sool Won dojahng: mook nym (seated meditation) - 5 minutes kyung neh (bow-in) mohm puhl gi (stretching & conditioning exercises) - 15 minutes soo ki (hand basics) + johk sool (kicking basics) - 15 minutes options (depends on the class night): hyung (white, yellow, and blue belt forms) - 15 or 20 minutes (sohn ppae gi) basic grab releases - 5 or 10 minutes - -or- hyung (white belt form) - 5 minutes review nahk bub (basic falling and acrobatics (from seated position)) - 10 minutes soo (self-defense techniques) - 10 minutes kyung neh (bow-out) hand basics, in various stances, directions, and combinations: knife hand (single, double, spinning) palm strike (single, double, reversed) ridge hand spear hand straight punch back fist punch projected knuckle punches preying mantis fist elbow strikes kicking basics, in various stances, directions, and combinations, including jumping: front-rising front inside crescent outside crescent axe spin circular sweep linear sweep knee roundhouse side hook (aka heel) back Probably doesn't vary much from what other KSW schools do, since the curriculum is standardized worldwide. Sincerely, Steven Gilmore San Antonio, TX ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:26:28 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #104 >the mixture of water/vinegar will set the dye in your belt, without causing it >to shrink or lose any of the brightness of color. >> >melinda >chunjido@aol.com Thanks, Melinda! I will try this. - -- tokay@netwurx.net ------------------------------ From: Joan Bostic Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:59:15 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Student Perspective "I would also be most interested in the students perspective on this even if you are not an instructor. When you signed up for a particular martial art what did you feel were your rights and what did you feel were your obligations to the dojang and to your instructor and other students." Jamaica, I love your thoughtful questions. They produce some of the most interesting threads in the Digest. Anyway, this question is fresh for me, since I only started at the beginning of November. At 41, I'm no youngster; my expectations might be someone different from someone else's, but here goes. My Rights: To be given the same quality of training that would be invested in anyone else (regardless of gender or age); to be given every opportunity to succeed; to be encouraged, directed, corrected, stimulated and motivated; and to be shown, by example, what it means to be a great martial artist, with respect to both technical skills and attitude. (I am honored to have an instructor who does all of that and more.) My Obligations: To come to the dojang prepared (mentally and physically) to learn; to show proper respect and honor to my instructor and the senior students; to practice diligently and put that practice to use in class; and to help out when called upon. And expectations and obligations seem to be coming together very well, I'm thrilled to say. Hope this helps. Joan Bostic 9th Gup TSD (hopefully 8th Gup after Wednesday!) Two Harbors, MN jbostic@mr.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:14:57 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Master Hancock's article I have been waiting patiently for my 4/99 BB mag. I saw it over a week ago in a store and wondered why I, a loyal subscriber, had not yet received my copy. I have come home from work every night asking my darling wife if we "received any good mail lately" (loosely translated: money, martial arts mags-although not necessarily in that order!). I am getting nervous-do I go out and buy a copy so that I can read Master Hancock's heavily-edited writing, or do I wait it out a bit longer? Any other subscribers out there that have not received their mag? Take Care, Peter M. ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:10:02 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Geneology Jamacia asks: > Have any of you developed actual family trees? I have actually mapped out my dad's family pretty thoroughly and I heartily recommend it to all. The main reason was to do a medical family tree...it's amazing how many things I discovered as a result of following one lineage. Ironically, AOL and Compuserve helped a great deal by just doing a member search on my maiden name. (It is a slightly unusual German name, so it was a lot easier than if I was a Smith, Jones or Dean....you should see me trying to track down the Brown side of my family! Oy!) It put me in touch with a distant cousin who asked if there was a history of juvenile diabetes in my branch of the family. Her son had just been diagnosed and they were stumped as to from wence it came. I didn't, but I was able to provide a significant amount of information she needed for her search (she's a mormon and needs to trace the whole family for religious reasons). A month later, I tracked down another distant cousin from the same tree but different branch. It turns out that her family has asthma AND juvenile diabetes all over the place. I asked if she had heard of the other cousin and she said she hadn't. I put the two in touch...turns out they lived 200 miles away from each other and were able to exchange enough information to help my other cousin's son. I tell my children the same stories my mother told me about her family along with the ones from my family. When Micah's class did their family unit recently, I had books from *my* great grandmother that I could offer to the teacher as an example of how family records used to be stored in the family religious books (ie bibles). It was a proud moment that my 7 year old could announce he had a connection to his great great grandparents that dated back over 100 years. Geneology is the roots our family gave us along with our wings. It is a difficult task, but it truly is a labor of love. Tang Soo! Karla ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:11:46 EST Subject: the_dojang: arlene In a message dated 2/22/99 6:03:10 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Arlene Slocum 1st Dan Lawrence Tae Kwon Do School Lawrence, Kansas >> jeez, arlene....i had no idea we were next door neighbors :). melinda kidder kansas city, mo ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:08:25 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: the new guy rich, welcome :). look forward to sharing with you! melinda chunjido@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "John Bennett" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:38:39 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Machado Jiu-Jitsu Seminar - Conroe, Texas On Saturday and Sunday, February 27th and 28th, Carlos Machado will conduct a comprehensive two-day Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu seminar in Conroe, Texas. Conroe is north of Houston, Texas. The seminar will allow you to improve your existing grappling skills and supplement your regular training with new ideas. Carlos Machado travels to Brazil and Japan several times a year to work with other elite grapplers in his quest for the most innovative techniques and applications. Attend either day or both days. Participants from all styles and levels are welcomed! For more information, please contact the seminar host Kurtis Bodiford at 409-447-5900. or, visit the seminar web page at: http://www.machadojj.com/carlos/seminarhou.htm Thanks! John Bennett ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:18:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #107 ******************************** Attention USA WTFers! Support the USTU by joining today! 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