From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #127 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 3 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 127 In this issue: the_dojang: CHO-DAN-BO~~~~BO-DAN the_dojang: RE: How insulting the_dojang: "Social" tools the_dojang: RE: Concealed weapons the_dojang: Re: The answer is 3 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #122 (fwd) the_dojang: AAU Taekwondo E-Mail Newsletter the_dojang: Re: spooooooky the_dojang: Need Help W/ Taeguk 6 Form the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Hernandez Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:18:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: CHO-DAN-BO~~~~BO-DAN A few weeks back someone posted the Korean terms used in thier Dojang they stated that Provisional BB was called BO-DAN!!! In My Dojang it is refered to as CHO-DAN-BO...Which is more common, and does anyone know what BO-DAN is??? I have never(in my short MA training) Heard that term used. I have seen A few people use Cho-dan-bo... I emailed the person who made the post directly but with no progress... If You have any input on this subject please respond.. Chris _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Greg Giddins Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:18:55 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: How insulting >> The last thing I expected to see in a grocery store was a guy in a stance, >> squaring off with me, and the last thing he expected me to do about it was >> drop in to a stance of my own. Good thing his "pal" had the sense to break >> it up... could you just see the groceries flying?!!!! >> >> Greg Giddins >Ya know...I was just sure this was going to turn into a "karate chopped the >watermellon" story. Even now I can't get the picture out of my head of the muppet >"Animal" in a dobok in the fruits and vegetables going wild. ROFLMHO!!! I beg your pardon Jahn Hancock, but this time you've went too far! Comparing me to "Animal" from the muppets??????? I prefer Grover from Sesame Street. I look much more like him. Greg Giddins ggiddins@ossinc.net ------------------------------ From: "The Hostetlers" Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:22:36 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: "Social" tools >From: Tom Marker >Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:45:19 -0500 (EST) >Subject: the_dojang: knives? > >hey everyone.. > >in the past, i've noticed a pretty high corelation to knife owners and >martial artists, so I thought I'd ask the group... > >how many of you carry one (or more!) knives on your person at a time? > >To start the discussion, I normally carry my benchmade ascent folder, and >a cold steel mini pal (like a 1" long push dagger, think of it as a >really nasty claw:) ) around my neck. > >For those of you in the states, do you also have a CCW permit? > >cheers.. >tom I carry a Timberline folding knife at all times. I also have a CCW permit, and I have 3 guns that I alternate carrying, usually because of the clothing I'm wearing. Then there is a 16" section of 00 gauge power cable in my truck. In the 5 years I've been training, I only pulled the knife once in jeopardy, and pulled a roundhouse kick to a guy's midsection, done as a gag. Never had to actually use anything. The knife incident was in downtown DC, when a panhandler got a little annoyed because I wouldn't contribute to his Thunderbird fund. Showed him the open blade, mumbled an obscene version of 'don't mess with me', and walked away. He ran. Robert W. Hostetler hostetb@iserve.net Indianapolis, IN Being good at being stupid doesn't count. ------------------------------ From: "Lasich, Mark D." Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 08:30:30 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Concealed weapons I echo Mr. Terry's comments: I read an article in the Wall Street Journal after one of the tragic school shootings. They pointed out the very same thing - in countries where right-to-carry laws exist, the rate of violent crimes actually decreased when the law went into effect! At this point the real criminals do not know who is armed and who is not! Why would they want to risk their life? Pittsburgh PA, where I live, has consistently rated very well on national surveys that include crime statistics. Pennsylvania has right-to-carry law! In fact, when you get your permit, they tell you to conceal the weapon on your body - do NOT leave it exposed while carrying it or even leave it laying on the seat or dash of your car. The permit is to carry as a concealed weapon, it does not grant you permission to flash it! That said, I have often asked a friend who carries a .45 all the time if he would use it to defend someone he did not know (convenience store hold-up, etc.)......I pose that same question to this group: Would you/have you used your art to defend a stranger? Would you, could you (gee, I sound like Dr. Suess) step in to prevent an injustice? Mark.Lasich@alcoa.com I asked for everything so I could enjoy life. Instead, HE gave me life so I could enjoy everything! ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:04:56 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The answer is 3 > No. Like the Owl said, "The answer is '3'." ;-) But is that a chocolate or fruit flavored tootsie pop and did it have an Indian shooting the star with his bow and arrow? ; ) ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 06:34:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #122 (fwd) Sent to the wrong address. Ray - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: >From MATTHEW.ROSSANESE@monsanto.com Wed Mar 3 05:19:07 1999 To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #122 Date: 01 Mar 1999 11:31:21 -0600 Mark wrote: Has anyone been in a situation where they have been surprised, scared, or otherwise taken off guard by someone they know? I am interested in what the "natural" response was.....did you jump 10 feet in the air, or assume a fighting stance and be on the ready? I have heard a story of a fourth degree cleaning his dojang after a long day. Two students walk in on him and startle him (he was not expecting anyone) - his response, after 10+ years of training? Completely startled - - no defensive reaction whatsoever, unless you count jumping and yelling (no, not kihap).....Hmmmmm, I can honestly say I am more on the being startled end, than the defensive end! Mark, an interesting question. I had a similar experience (although not with a person) about 6 months ago. I was walking down a sidewalk and a dog came charging at me from seemingly out of no where. Without thinking, a pure reaction, I assumed, rather jumped into a fighting stance and tried to identify the streaking blur headed for me. Thankfully there was a fence between me and the dog. At the time I felt like a complete idiot. After I assessed that there was no real threat I continued walking down the street, quickly looking around to see if anyone had seen my response. Afterwards, however, I felt good about the entire experience, not foolish. All of my training paid off, under the surprise situation I was ready. On a similar note, I was playing ping-pong with several guys from my dojang. They started to poke fun at me because when I hit the ball with a cutting type strike I blocked my face with the other hand, without even realizing it. Again, at first I felt kind of foolish, but again after some thought, I felt happy. Unfortunately the lesson was lost on some of my fellow students. Regards, Matthew Rossanese 1st Dan Hapkido ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:50:46 EST Subject: the_dojang: AAU Taekwondo E-Mail Newsletter Greetings! If you would like to receive the AAU E-Mail Taekwondo Newsletter which contains Training Tips, AAU News and AAU Tournament Information email: DMazor1026@aol.com. This Letter is sent monthly so as to not overload your mailbox. This Month's topics: Medal Winning Forms Lower Leg Contusions AAU Tournament Schedule April/May AAU Lowers Dan Eligibility Time Requirements! To subscribe e-mail DMazor1026@aol.com Sincerely, David Mazor ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:45:20 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: spooooooky In a message dated 3/2/99 3:31:39 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Say you've come back to the martial arts after a long illness (maybe even terminal illness) >> ghosts in the dojang? interesting topic ;)...hehee. melinda chunjido@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "KEVIN A. CRANE" Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 12:54:31 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Need Help W/ Taeguk 6 Form Hi folks! I practice TSD forms and am learning a TKD, specifically Taeguk 6. I'd really appreciate some advice on this form as I'm going to be doing it in competition very, very soon. Please bear with me on this... 1. When I perform both middle target roundhouse kicks, do I place the kicking foot down on the ground and THEN turn for the arm block, OR do I pivot my body directly into the direction the block will be going PRIOR to placing the kicking foot on the ground? 2. Are the palm blocks at the end performed slowly or with some degree of force prior to throwing the follow-up punches? 3. Do TKD form practitioners breathe out (loud enough for the judges to hear) after each movement or not? I usually do for TSD forms, however, don't want to do so if not part of the TKD form. 4. The movement where the arms are raised above the head and brought down to the sides of the body...is this done slowly with a forceful move at the end, OR is the whole movement done fast? If slow, about 2 - 3 seconds or so? Please feel free to pass on any other nuances that you feel will help me perform better. You may provide any info to me directly to my email if you prefer. Thank you all very much in advance! Best Regards, Kevin Crane ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:06:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #127 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, California Taekwondo Standard disclaimers apply.