From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #129 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thurs, 4 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 129 In this issue: the_dojang: 2nd wind and psyched up! the_dojang: Aloha Online News! (fwd) the_dojang: Han Mu Do vs. Kuk Sool the_dojang: Taegeuk 6 ctd. and poomse competition the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #128 the_dojang: Sorce for M.A. origins the_dojang: Bo-Dan low down the_dojang: Re: More Taeguk 6 the_dojang: It's good to be back the_dojang: concealed weapons the_dojang: Elmo likes karate the_dojang: Proper breathing for forms the_dojang: Re: Painful Hips the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:30:20 PST Subject: the_dojang: 2nd wind and psyched up! So how does everybody do it? You know it's been a long day in classes or at work. Or maybe the kids kept you up all night (all week)? Flu season. So you come home and there's still another hour or two before class. You are major big time dead tired. Do you have a good dinner with a bottle of beer...oops.. I mean Perrier. (hahaha) Now you know what I do... Or do you take a 1/2 hour cold shower, play some funky hip hop music, take the dog for a walk, read a paper.??? This 2nd wind thing also applies for tournaments. You know you plan for a tournament for months and then the week of the tournament everything falls on you but you still plan on going. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com We can't run from who we are, Our destiny chooses us. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:43:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Aloha Online News! (fwd) Aloha, TOURNAMENT INFORMATION.... Attention Tournament Promoters......Tired of the same old Karate tournament? Looking for the magic formula to attract new spectators and competitors to your tournament? 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Jimmy Pham Tank Tops and White T-Shirts! Summer is just around the corner! This is a must for the martial arts enthusiast! Closeouts! Don't miss your opportunity to get new products at a fraction of their original price! Here are a few of the products listed! Hakama's $20.00 Reg $69.95 - TKD Reversible Chest Protectors $8.00 Reg. $29.95! New products added on a regular basis! ------------------------------ From: Mario Bertacco Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:45:02 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Han Mu Do vs. Kuk Sool Can anyone on this list share their knowledge of Dr. Kimm's Han Mu Do? I know he was a high ranking Kuk Sool practitioner and came out with the first book on the Kuk Sool. I am curious how different his style is from Kuk Sool, any info would be appreciated. Mario taccomc@jps.net ------------------------------ From: Mike Heeney Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:59:19 +1300 Subject: the_dojang: Taegeuk 6 ctd. and poomse competition First up - the yell in Taegeuk 6. The only one we do is on the very last punch. It seems others also yell on the second roundhouse? How common is this? As for yelling when doing form competition - I've never (to my knowledge) actually _scared_ the judges. But I do have a strong yell and it won me an open tourney at the end of last year. Well I think it won my the competition, because as far as I'm concerned I didn't do the form very well :( But, the judges seemed to love my yell :) Also on form competition - is it just me or do you others get nervous? I mean every step I take I'm think I'm nearly gonna fall over - my legs feel all weak and wobbly. Apparently it doesn't show however, which is lucky. I guess it's just butterflies, but you'd think I'd feel right at home doing a form I've known for a few years... Mike Hamilton New Zealand. http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~mheeney <-- me/myself/I - Taekwondo - Riverdance ------------------------------ From: John Hancock <4karate@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:49:32 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #128 > But the Pyung Ahns.... hey, now there's a topic. Lets talk about them! > haahaa > > Greg Giddins I think I have...and rather extensively too. ;-) JH (see my web page at: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Pagoda/9536/pyong_ahn.html ) ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:15:57 EST Subject: the_dojang: Sorce for M.A. origins Help....(Oh wait, that's what I'm NOT supposed to yell to get help. Hmmmm...<(*_*)>) I am in need of some Information. Does anyone on the list know where I could find a single source that would identify the originating country for all (or at least a lot) of the different Martial arts? For example, which art forms are from Korea, which are from the Philippines etc....??? I would really appreciate any assistance on this one. Thanks, Mary The3Shaws@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Stratton, Sam" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:35:25 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Bo-Dan low down In my dojang we refer to 1st gup students (one step below 1st dan) as Bo-Dan, I guess from all the mail that this moniker is specific to my dojang. Sorry for any confusion. Thanx, Sam Stratton Bo-Dan(first Gup) ------------------------------ From: "CALLAHAN" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:27:48 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: More Taeguk 6 > Now, to add to Kevin's post: I was taught to ki'ap when you execute a > roundhouse after the movement where you raise your arms above your head in an > x-block and bring it down slowly. Now, my question is, do you ki'ap at the > very end of the form after you do the knife-hand blocks and the palm-blocks > with the reverse punches? There is no yell at the end of the form. The only yell is at the second round kick, that you described above. By the way, (some one mentioned this in a previous post) the arms should not be crossed above the head. They are crosses at chest level, then brought down slowly. Now, to add one more question to this thread: 1.) What is the meaning behind this particular motion? Chris Callahan "Violence when there is an alternative, is immoral; Violence when there is no alternative, is survival" ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 22:36:43 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: It's good to be back Hi everybody! After taking a break from this list for almost three years, I'm glad to be back. Of course, most of the people that were on three years ago are now gone. Ray is still here, of course, and I'd like to thank him for that. Just to introduce myself to everybody else, I've still got a first dan rank in WTF (Kukkiwon), and am currently residing in Malaysia. One of these days, I might actually test for my second dan (I've been at 1st for the past 6 years)! But I'm still thinking about that. And just to set things straight from the beginning, everything I say on this list will be my narrow and compartmentalized view of this world and the martial arts. Sincerely, Emil Fisk fiskej@usa.net ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 22:36:16 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: concealed weapons There's been a lot of discussion about martial artists carrying knives and questioning whether one would use the knife in a fight or not. Although I choose not to carry one myself, I do have several friends that carry multiple knives. My question is, how many people out there on this list actually know how to use a knife properly? It's not just simple stabbing and slashing. As Ray mentioned, people with a background in Filipino, Indonesian, and maybe even Hawaiian (kenpo, kajukenbo...) arts might know how to effectively weild knives, but I have seen a lack of effective defense against knives in taekwondo. I've seen that hapkido has some pretty neat and possibly realistic defenses, though. Although Ray might be able to clarify this more due to his background in the Filipino arts, I have seen that eskrimadors are quite proficient in slashing people even though the defender thinks that he's got the knife under control. Any comments, on those of you have really defended yourselves against a knife attack? Emil Fisk fiskej@usa.net ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:30:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Elmo likes karate John Hancock wrote: Greg....ya sure you wouldn't want to be compared to Elmo? You know...they have Elmo Karate T-shirts now. :-) LOTFLMSS (laying on the floor laughing myself silly) My response: Yeah, but the ones with the Peanuts gang and Hong Kong Phooey are cooler. My personal favorite is the Woodstock one doing a side kick, with "Kongsu" above him. Take care, Dakin ------------------------------ From: "Barbara Oliver" Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:15:46 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Proper breathing for forms I would be interested in hearing what type of breathing patterns people use during the execution of their forms. If you are doing a form with full speed and power, do you still try to breathe out with every technique, or every nth technique? And, does your breathing pattern help with stamina? Barbara Oliver stillkicking@prodigy.net "I'd rather live one day like a tiger than one thousand years like a sheep" - --(Tidbit of wisdom I saw somewhere on the internet!) ------------------------------ From: Fred Madero Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:06:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Painful Hips Patrick O'Brien wrote; <