From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #166 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 24 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 166 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Temper tantrum the_dojang: techniques the_dojang: Poomse and Board Breaking Competition the_dojang: Speeding Up Competitions the_dojang: Re: Your Destiny the_dojang: Hapkido Question for Kim the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:52:08 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Temper tantrum I was recently sparring a woman in class who didn't keep her hands up to protect her head. After landing about half a dozen right leg roundhouses in a four minute period she grabbed me by my dobok, pointed a finger in my face and told me that if I kicked her in the head one more time she was going to "punch me in the face". None of the kicks were hard at all, certainly not hard enough to cause any injury, and all were to the side of the head gear, which is why I was caught totally off guard. The woman is a brown belt, and probably in her fourties, and I am an 18 year old blue belt (In karate where this transpired, and a 1st dan in Taekwondo) and I feel a high rank, especially with her age should have had the composure and self control to deal with the situation rationally, not by threatening violence. She also refused to move after me anymore, or take any initiative. She kept taunting me "come on, I'm not going to chase you, come on" The woman, (I learned afterward) tends to "take everything very seriously." If this is so, why doesn't she act seriously instead of losing her cool simply because she is outmatched by a quicker fighter like myself? I intend to bring this to her attention the next time she throws a temper tantrum. I am there to train, as is everybody else. Part of my responsibility to others is to help them train and to work on their problem areas with them. for her this means helping her keep her hands up, and I guess, bringing to her attention that sometimes a little more patience and less attitude is necessary. Does anyone else have any experience with this? Would her attacking me with the intent to physically injure me (which her voie told me was the case) be cause for me to respond with a less-than gentle techniqe to end the threat? Your in the arts ChrisM5689@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Christian Fortin" Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:58:37 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: techniques "They do if you're a girl. As in "Hey, Baby, you're not going anyhere until I say so." As a female, I'm unlikely to be in a bar brawl, but more likely to be in a bad situation that starts with grabbing. Well, I hope not, because I hope I could spot a bad situation and leave the scene before it turned to grabbing" I am referring to the Kuk Sool and Hapkido, sets or series of techniques that start by a wrist seize. It seems that 75% of all the techniques start with some sort of wrist seizure. I am not saying the techniques are bad, once it is applied. I also believe that the same techniques can be used against most hand strikes. But if the student only practices the techniques starting from a wrist seize what good is it when the attacker throws a punch, or a multiple series of attacks. I wanted to know, if the Kuk Sool, Hakido and similar dojangs, always teach and practice their techniques the same way. Ex: Sohn Mok Soo #? 1) Start from horse stance, 2) opponent grabs wrist, 3), apply the techniques OR do they learn to block the strike (maybe trap it), hit the opponent with a counter strike, and then apply a KukSool Hapkido technique. Chris ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:04:49 PST Subject: the_dojang: Poomse and Board Breaking Competition When watching or ref'ing poomse competitions do you like when more than one person is put in a ring at one time. Like when they put 2 to 4 people in a ring? Do you think it's fair to the competitors? Usually this is done just to speed up the competition. What about when they put so many in a ring of different ranks all doing different forms? Something with board breaking. And when the judges sit in the chairs all lined up on one side of the mat do you think this is optimal for judging. Or would it be better to have them around the ring like in sparring competition? Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:10:52 PST Subject: the_dojang: Speeding Up Competitions I've been to many tournaments that when the day is running long and late the tournament director will go from ring to ring and tell the center ref and the time keeper to "shorten" up the matches. So if they are supposed to be 3 minute matches they are now 2 min or less. I personally feel it's a backwards way of making a tournament efficient, on the otherhand when a tournament is running till 10 or 11 or later at night I can see them doing it. But I truly don't feel it's fair to the competitors. Other thoughts? Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:13:43 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Your Destiny >>> When did you know you wanted to be a martial artist? Was it a calling (so to speak). Did you always know or did you stumble into it like me and then it became a passionate part of your life. <<< I think I first got turned on to martial arts via the Kung Fu TV series. I was 12 or 13 at the time, and I actually liked the philosophy as much as the moves. I didn't do anything about it, though, until I was about 21, when I enrolled in a Shaolin-Do school under grand naster Sin The in Lexington, KY (that's right, JH, another hillbilly on the net ;?) ). I dropped out after a year to become a programmer-type, and didn't re-up to martial arts until '95, when I joined a TKD school in S. Florida with my wife and child. I took up TKD because of the location of the school and (primarily) because we could all train together. Now, I see myself hooked and continuing with TKD and Tai Chi as long as I can... Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX (ATA) ------------------------------ From: Henry Maki Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:25:32 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido Question for Kim Kim, Thanks for the "Destiny" contribution. In reading it I had a question about your Hapkido experience - especially since it came from the "mother land" :-> . I currently study TKD under the Korean TKD Association but Hapkido seems to really fascinate me. What GM/Association did you study under in Korea? Do you still study HKD today? How do you view the difference in the US? Again, thanks for your time. I really appreciate hearing from people's "true/actual" experience and not a rumor or tale tale that is just going around the circle one more time. Kind Regards, Henry Maki West Palm Beach, Florida Lee's TKD Academy ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:32:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #166 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, California Taekwondo Standard disclaimers apply.