From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #178 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 30 March 1999 Vol 06 : Num 178 In this issue: the_dojang: Martial Arts College Scholarships? the_dojang: RE: Where does that arm go? the_dojang: Re: where doees that arm go? the_dojang: scholarships the_dojang: block the_dojang: Win/Lose by Superiority! the_dojang: scholarships the_dojang: Re: Ambidextrous? the_dojang: Re: where does that arm go? the_dojang: Brown Belts Should Know Better! the_dojang: Technique vs. Speed the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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From: Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:06:37 -0600 Subject: Re: the_dojang: Injuries and towels > From: burdickd > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:38:30 -0500 (EST) > Subject: the_dojang: Injuries and towels > I also emphasize that you don't get scholarships for martial arts. <> >>There are colleges and universities that do give scholarships for martial arts. - - -- Scott scink@who.net Hi Folks! I read the above response that there are colleges and universities that give scholarships for martial arts. How does one go about ascertaining which ones do? I'd like to research this a little bit more. Any info would be appreciated! Kevin A. Crane Suburbs of Philadelphia ------------------------------ From: "Michael Sarles" Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:50:51 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Where does that arm go? Not that I know anything... When we are practicing our forms (ITF) I was taught to keep my hands in the position they were in when perform a kick...so one's arms are not flapping all over the place. When we spar, I keep my hands up (kind of like a boxer's pyramid arm formation) when sparring. When I do a kick, they stay in this same position... It keeps them available to protect my ribs, gut or head if I'm caught with something during my technique. Seems to have worked okay so far. I can't really see what having your arm parallel to your kicking leg is going to accomplish...but then...what do I know...? Michael Sarles msarles@ior.com > Subject: the_dojang: where does that arm go? > > I teach the guard for side and roundhouse like this: > A) both arms up covering the body, elbows tucked into the sides not flying > around, or > B) the kicking side arm can twist down behind the kicking leg, while the > other arm stays up over the body. Of course the arm that goes down the > outside of the leg comes straight back up with the rechamber. > > Last night I had a new student, a green belt who hasn't trained > for a couple > years. Well she started doing side kick with the kicking side > arm pointing > down on the _inside_ of the kicking leg. When I told her it > either stays up > or goes down the _outside_, she was really surprised. > > So, how do you ppl teach the guard? Do other ppl point the > kicking side arm > down the inside of the leg? ------------------------------ From: Steven Gilmore Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 06:45:02 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: where doees that arm go? In reference to a side kick, Mike Heeney asked: >So, how do you ppl teach the guard? Do other ppl point the kicking side arm >down the inside of the leg? Down the inside of the leg, for body protection. But then again, I don't teach or practice TKD. Sincerely, Steven Gilmore San Antonio, TX, USA ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:56:52 EST Subject: the_dojang: scholarships In a message dated 3/29/99 8:52:02 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << > I also emphasize that you don't get scholarships for > martial arts. There are colleges and universities that do give scholarships for martial arts. - -- Scott scink@who.net >> Rose State College gives TKD scholarships - contact Cyrus Nahid. ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:00:08 EST Subject: the_dojang: block In a message dated 3/29/99 8:52:02 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang- owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << So, how do you ppl teach the guard? Do other ppl point the kicking side arm down the inside of the leg? >> The master tells it better than I and it takes forever to write it out - so we teach the universal block - http://members.aol.com/ladytkd/steve2.htm Basically it is front arm up and back hand down. ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 06:08:50 PST Subject: the_dojang: Win/Lose by Superiority! Has anybody ever won or had a student win by superiority. I know in my career I had to use that criteria more than one time to decide a match. When coaching and teaching your students is this something you incorporate into their training? I've seen some excellent competitors lose because of their lack of presence in the ring and the lack of difficulty in the techniques they used. How do you train your students to make a statement without saying a word. To command the match. How do you teach them to have a powerful presence without crossing over that delicate borderline into what a referee could possibly perceive as showboating when you are thinking it is just good fighting agressiveness and good match management. Thanks. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:12:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: scholarships My original post: > I also emphasize that you don't get scholarships for > martial arts. The response: There are colleges and universities that do give scholarships for martial arts. My reply: First of all, the odds of getting a martial arts scholarship are very low when compared to football, basketball, or even volleyball or baseball scholarships. Moreover, there are limited professional opportunities for players after college, so why spend all that time on getting there? I prefer my students go home and do their school work and get a decent job than put in many extra hours of practice on the arts. Just my opinion of course, but I have had students get scholarships in football and swimming and get full rides to college as a result. This meant that for the last two years of high school, they didn't practice t'aekwondo very much, but on the other hand, they'll get a decent education and come out the other side with a continuing interest in the arts as a hobby they can pick up again after they've got a good job. Secondly, I'm sure everyone here would be interested in where those scholarships are located. Would you please list them for us here? Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Ray Wagner Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:10:46 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Ambidextrous? "Lasich, Mark D." wrote: > While we train in the martial arts to be as good on both sides of the > body, how many of us have challenged ourselves to be as good in other > aspects of our life? I have a different viewpoint for this discussion. I was originally left handed. When I got to kindergarten and started drawing and learning to write I was left handed. I was told that this was wrong and forced to use my right hand. I got smacked with a ruler if I used my left. Since then I've been pretty much right handed but I can do most anything with my left. I'm still not much for writing with it (but then my right-handed writing stinks too) or throwing. When playing baseball I can hit switch with better accuracy right handed, better power left handed. > Lastly, can you call yourself ambidextrous if you simply "learned" how > to use the other hand, or must this be a natural talent? I would think so, Ray Wagner ------------------------------ From: Ray Wagner Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:15:52 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: where does that arm go? Mike Heeney wrote: > So, how do you ppl teach the guard? Do other ppl point the kicking side arm > down the inside of the leg? I first learned the side kick in Shaolin-do (BTW Paul, my instructor was Ed Krug who was a student of Bill Leonard's) and we were taught to block the groin with the non-kicking side hand and the kicking side hand stayed up to guard. Then when I learned it in TKD I was taught to keep both hands up. I assume it's because groin kicks are illegal in competition. Since I was taught in TKD to keep the hands up, I teach it that way. My $.02 Ray Wagner ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 06:47:46 PST Subject: the_dojang: Brown Belts Should Know Better! I borrowed this statement from someone that posted to the "Temper Tantrum" thread. But it is a comment that we frequently use. Ideally, I would agree with this statement but I think realistically it's inaccurate. To me it would be like saying that all students that graduate from high school should know how to read and write. We want to believe it and we expect it but we know it's not true. Speaking for myself I can guarantee you that I am not in anyway the same person I was even a few years ago. Now, in my case, I would like to think that I have made positive strides forward. But in some people's lives they do regress based on many situations. Could be work layoffs, personal traumas like divorce, illness/injury, death, inability to cope with aging, etc. etc. And for many people trying to separate the bad situations from their martial arts life is a formidable and sometimes quite impossible task. So given a particular time in your life you could have been an awesome white belt and be a not so great brown belt. IMHO - Let's face it you can score high on SAT scores for college but that doesn't make you a great person. I've seen more than one person that's passed the testing requirements of their martial arts school. They train, they know their stuff. You couldn't not pass them to the next belt level but I certainly wouldn't want them to be my friend. On a continuum of 1 to 10 they could be maybe a 2. Still a brown belt but mediocre at best. I was thinking about an awakening statement somebody told me a few years ago. They said "when we think of medical physicians we tend to think they were all at the top of their class and know what they are doing; when in reality some barely passed, and that could be the one that is our provider." As a matter of fact, I've personally changed so much that as I reflect back on the indivudals I hung out with years ago I wouldn't associate with them today and probably vice versa for so very many reasons. Many schools don't provide directly for the constant reassessment of who we are and where we are at and what our belt means. Most of martial arts training is based on self-responsibility but many people need that extra guidance and supervision to remind them. Not all people function well on total autonomy and self-responsibility no matter what belt level they are. Not all higher ranking belts are leaders. IMHO x 100. Thanks. Jamaica jamaica_power@hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Karel van der Walt Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:48:14 +0300 Subject: the_dojang: Technique vs. Speed See my earlier post on this. I actually believe that as you learn proper technique, you also 'learn' slowness - thus must be offset with speed training which will make you feel clumsy and uncomfortable as you do the techniques for speed and no regard for form. Almost only technique to induce right kind of speed is fear/arousal. This sort of training can not really be done on your own. This off-setting/balancing needs not start so soon but has to enter. Your thoughts? Karel ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:34:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #178 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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