From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #190 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 7 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 190 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: knife forms the_dojang: Testing Cycles/Thanks Chris the_dojang: re: yoga the_dojang: Yoga the_dojang: RE: Arthroscopic Surgery the_dojang: RE: Tom Kurz and Thanks... the_dojang: Re: Arthroscopic surgery BOUNCE the_dojang: Non-member submission from [Michael Osier (fwd) the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #189 the_dojang: Yoga the_dojang: Welcome Kia Panah! the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800+ members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:04:40 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: knife forms FYI, In Tang Soo Do Mi Guk Kwan we have one knife form that I know of. It is at the cho dan level and is simply called Tanto hyung cho dan. Carolyn 1st gup TSDMGK spetland1@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:21:14 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Testing Cycles/Thanks Chris I wrote this because someone asked about testing cycles but I can't remember who!! Does it make sense?? Chris. __________________________________ Thanks, Chris. I asked the question and I appreciate your great response. Not only did it make sense your testings are far more organized than most I've seen and participated in. Thanks for sharing jamaica_power@hotmail.com "When the rich make war, it's the poor that die." (Jean-Paul Sartre) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Laura Kamienski" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:31:10 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: re: yoga Hi Syl, I teach a 'conditioning' yoga class at a local gym. I think it is excellent cross training for any sport. I actually started practicing yoga on the advice of my dance instructor. What I found is that not only does it help with flexibility but it tones and teaches breathing technique as well. A traditional yoga class requires more of a commitment than one like mine, but I see no problem with doing it in addition to martial arts. I would suggest looking for an instructor who is competent and conscious of safety issues. Along with TKD, I race mountain bikes in the spring, summer and fall, dance, teach aerobics and yoga and weight train. I think each compliments and adds to the other. On the subject of flexibility and bike riding brought up in another post...I've had no trouble here. What I find is usually people who experience this aren't warming up and stretching properly before and after. Laura 1st Dan Chin Mu Kwan-Tae Kwon Do lkamiens@ptd.net lkamnski@bucknell.edu http://www.students.bucknell.edu/lkamnski http://home.switchboard.com/LKamienski ____________________________________________________ "The destination is not the purpose of a journey; death is not the purpose of life." -Thich Nhat Hanh ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Jonna Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Yoga > does anyone also do yoga along with their martial arts? > Would it be wise, or will it just screw me up? Absolutely. I would highly encourage you to use yoga along with your martial arts training. The stretches used in yoga will improve your flexibility quicker than anything else I have found. Also, the breathing exercises will increase your energy and endurance. Good luck! :-) Jonna _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Michael Sarles" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:34:54 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Arthroscopic Surgery Garth, You kind of lost me since both options seemed to talk about a local...%-) Anyway, I had a friend go in for arth surgery from damage done in martial arts and they PUT HIM OUT COLD. That's my only experience... Michael Sarles msarles@ior.com > Subject: the_dojang: Arthroscopic surgery > > Hey there-- > Can anyone tell me: is arthroscopic surgery for a fully torn ACL > only done with a local anasthetic, or can it be done with a local? > > -Thanks > Garth Robins > ------------------------------ From: "Michael Sarles" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:36:40 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Tom Kurz and Thanks... Thank you Scott. I have the video (as you can see, I don't use it much anymore) and I've had people tell me his name in the past...guess my short term is going down the toilet... Michael Sarles msarles@ior.com > Seems likely you're writing about Tom Kurz, who wrote "Stretching > Scientifically" and has a video that may go by the same title. > The ads for > his publications feature him in a past-horizontal side split suspended > across the backs of 2 folding chairs, if you've ever seen them. Kurz' > recommendations seem sound to me, but I've been hampered in the > implementation by lack of time, and by the contradiction between some of > his recommendations and the training regimen where I practice, > particularly > with respect to the optimal sequence for different types of stretching. > Tang Soo! > Scott A. Miller > samiller@bix.com samiller@cyberenet.net ------------------------------ From: John McFee Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Arthroscopic surgery Nathan Wind wrote on Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:34:57 +0100 (BST): > Can anyone tell me: is arthroscopic surgery for a fully torn ACL >only done with a local anasthetic, or can it be done with a local? It is done with a general (I had it done about 4 weeks ago). In the words of my doc: "If it were me, I'd want the general." That's all the convincing it took me! It is possible to do arthroscopic assessment (i.e., just lookin' around) and meniscus repair using an epidural rather than a general. A friend of mine is having that done next week. I do not know if they'd do it for the ACL surgery, though. John McFee - -- Dr. John E. McFee Defence Research Establishment Suffield Box 4000, Medicine Hat, AB Canada T1A 8K6 (403) 544-4739 (voice) 544-4704 (fax) e-mail: John.McFee@dres.dnd.ca ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BOUNCE the_dojang: Non-member submission from [Michael Osier (fwd) You are subscribed as mail1@chloe.hgs.yale.edu. Please correct. Ray - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: BOUNCE the_dojang: Non-member submission from [Michael Osier ] From: Michael Osier Reply-To: Michael Osier On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 "Jamaica Power" wrote: > With verbal testing you usually challenged them with historical > questions of perhaps a greater depth than they studied for. [..] > Does anybody wish to share some of the questions and challenges they > have asked students to do during their tests for colored belt or black > belt? Thanks. "Why do you train?" tends to be a good verbal question for colored belts. a) Makes the students consider themselves. b) Is not something normally discussed in class. c) Confuses them to no end, esp if you form new questions based on their answers. I can't claim credit for this one. My instructor used to ask it of us. His answer to any response was "but why not do xxx." where "xxx" is some other activity that would provide the same benefit. Anyone else use this? As for physical challenges, I invite guest instructors from my old school. I give them a run down of what my students should know, and let the guest play from there when they run the testing. Generally the guest instructor tries them with a technique or two a notch higher than what the students have seen. I've found guest instructors come in with a fresher perspective and therefore have an easier time coming up with an appropriate challenge. Of course, you have to know and trust the guest pretty well. Michael - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Osier = michael.osier@yale.edu | "He is not well rounded who does http://chloe.hgs.yale.edu/~og/ | not have an equally keen interest BS Biochemical Science - UVM | in all of the things within the Yale University | compass of painting." Human Genetics - Og | Leonardo da Vinci ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:10:35 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #189 In a message dated 4/7/99 11:09:32 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > Hey there-- > Can anyone tell me: is arthroscopic surgery for a fully torn ACL > only done with a local anasthetic, or can it be done with a local? > > -Thanks > Garth Robins > > Hmmmmm...... Never heard of a FULLY torn ACL being repaired arthroscopically. Check with your Doc to make sure they do not use the scope as a suppliment. If the ACL is being reconstructed, the knee usually has to be opened up at least somewhat to allow the surgeon to access the graft site. As for anesthetic, that is really up to the doctor. If they are truly doing an arthroscopic only procedure, a local can probably be used. If the procedure is more involved, the surgeon may not want to use a local. Again, it really depends on your doctors preference. Different patients react differently. Talk to your doctor, let him know you are interested in using a local, and take it from there. IMHO, - ---Kim S. KAS001@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Angie Reed Garner Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:05:25 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Yoga >From: SylverEyes >Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 21:30:23 -0400 >Subject: the_dojang: Yoga/Other sports > > On the subject of weight training and all that(which I wanted to >do, originally... *sigh* I want to everything sometimes)... does >anyone >also do yoga along with their martial arts? Would it be wise, or will >it >just screw me up? One enthusiastic vote for yoga. It is helping me get height on my kicks and ease my spine into the flexibility I need for rolling. (I have arthritis in my spine). At home I regularly (I won't quite claim "daily") do the warm up series of stretches we begin every martial arts class with- and then go into some yoga stretches focusing on problem physical areas. I noticed my kicks in my at-home practices were substantially higher than the ones I could ever do in class- so now I do yoga stretches before class begins. It makes for a much better training experience. Maybe people with fewer physical problems than I have wouldn't see as much benefit in their training from yoga- but it helps me a lot. Angie Reed ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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