From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #194 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 9 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 194 In this issue: the_dojang: one liners the_dojang: Re: V6 #192: the sports vision thing the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #193 the_dojang: Re: scientific studies the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #189 the_dojang: Re: Strategic Side Fighting or Cowardly Evading the_dojang: Re: Sports Vision Tests and Exercises the_dojang: 2 tidbits on past threads the_dojang: back... the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:37:59 EDT Subject: the_dojang: one liners In a message dated 4/9/99 9:34:01 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Man is at his best in helping others: at his worst in bettering others. >> jeez, greg, you always come up with good ones :) melinda chunjido@aol.com ------------------------------ From: samiller@Bix.Com Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: V6 #192: the sports vision thing Serendipitious that this coincides with the thread on hatha yoga, because there are yoga-based eye exercises similar to those you describe. In addition to a near/far focus points, the practioner picks the following pairs of points: high/low (straight); left/right (straight); high left/low right (diagonal); high right/low left (diagonal). Four or five reptitions of each pair are performed, all without moving the head. Finally, the eyes are rolled in complete circles around the periphery of the sockets (as far as comfort permits) several times clockwise, and several more counter-clockwise. To recover, one lays on one's back with knees drawn up, rubs hands together, and gently cups the closed eyes with the palms, crossing the pinkies. Supposedly it makes a difference which pinky is on top. While I do believe the exercise is beneficial, the hand rubbing and pinky preference strain my credulity and I often omit them as focus locus hocus pocus (sorry;>) >As regular practice in my TSD days, during a cool down period we would >perform focusing exercises by holding our raised thumb in front of us >with our arm stretched completely out. We would then alternate our focus >on our thumb, then onto, say, a distant wall, then back again. >Alternatively, focus far away first, then close. The trick is to >actually FOCUS on each object. Tang Soo! Scott A. Miller samiller@bix.com samiller@cyberenet.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:20 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #193 Hi, all. I'm testing for 1st Dan tomorrow, so wish me luck! I'll need it - I took a kick to the ribs two weeks ago. I got it xrayed - not broken, but a bad bruise of the inside chest wall. I got a cortisone shot 48 hrs ago, but it doesn't seem to have done much. Most of the classmates I'm testing with know I'm injured, and I'm sure won't go after me too much in sparring. I've altered my breaking routine to favor my feet and my okay side. Anyone else ever tested while injured? :-o Jane jdudley@inna.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:59:20 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: scientific studies In a message dated Michael writes (and writes and writes until dinner time ; ) ): > karla wrote: > > > I just got through with one of Dr. Dossey's books (Prayer is Good > > Medicine) where he claims there were over 138 scientific studies > > (both blind and double blind) about the effects of prayer/mental > > energy and the healing process. > I can see a few possible problems with the logic here: Michael, As I said, it was not to reopen the argument. I only wanted to supply the information to some who requested it. Since Dossey is a cardiologist, I suspect he has referenced the studies he is quoting in the book but, since I was listening to the book on tape, I did not have the references on hand. I am no scientist. I don't want to be a scientist. I have already learned far too much about how the kidney functions and now I'm learning quite a bit about avascular navicular schlerosis and orthopedia. I still prefer Chaucer's Middle English to Medical Latin and suspect I always will. Again, someone asked if there were studies. I happened to listen to this book this past week and passed the info on. karla ------------------------------ From: Tony Preston Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:49:43 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #189 >Hey there-- >Can anyone tell me: is arthroscopic surgery for a fully torn ACL >only done with a local anasthetic, or can it be done with a local? >-Thanks >Garth Robins > Garth, My knee was done under a general, not a local.. I choose that method because I did not want to watch them drill holes in my knee...:)(fearsome martial artist that I am...). My doctor gave me a choice. Tony Preston 1st Dan TKD(got right after my rehab...) - -- - -- Tony Preston, Team *AMIGA*, Linux developer since 1996 - -- Custom Services, P. O. Box 254, Moorestown, NJ 08055 - -- The Amiga Zone BBS (609) 953-8159 ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:47:18 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Strategic Side Fighting or Cowardly Evading Please accept this for the truly naive question this is. I am only recently learning about serious competition methods. But if one person is turned this way, should not the other fighter move around and pursue this person to where they can attack them? It seems like there is a fine line between "running away" and just being smart about how you position yourself. _________________________________________ Well, if you're just starting to learn about serious competition methods than you are most fortunate to have already had some really great posts on this subject in response to my question. Hope you print them out and try some of the techniques in your classes or competition. Now to try and answer your question. In some instances there is a fine line. I have seen this sparring technique used in a variety of ranges. This particular technique is called evading your opponent as opposed to running away from your opponent (around the ring, outside the boundary lines, etc). 1). The elite athlete as some posted, when using this technique are not running away from or evading their opponent (I'm talking in generalities here). They use this as a strategy in combination with other kicks and punches and maneuvers. It's effective, the sparring is beautiful, hard, and flows. 2). Then there are what I call the middle ground people. Level 2. Their sparring is not good but it is getting better. They are slower on their feet and they rely on only a few of their favorite sparring techniques. They have gotten into the bad habit of turning their back too much, making it too visible and holding the position for a period of time to ward off their opponent. As another poster said frequently these people are okay sparrers but they use this as a crutch and to avoid the kicks and punches of the opponent. No this is not good fighting. And they are evading. 3). Then there is the lower level of fighters. Let's call this level 1. They use this way way too much and use it to avoid. Very obvious. The problem is with level 1 and 2 the ref should warn or deduct points for this behavior but what frequently happens is that their opponents are good sparrers but still learning. So when they come across this behavior they become frustrated and try to counter this behavior (and notice at this level it's not a technique it's a bad behavior), they usually wind up hitting the person in the groin, on the back, under the belt, etc. And unfortunately the ref sees this and gives this person the deduction instead. Level 1 people fight always with their back and their side kicks or back kicks are not effective and are reminiscent of an ornery donkey kicking up his feet. And the most upsetting thing to me is to see the person that fights like this actually win the match. One of the many reasons some refs don't call this behavior is because they probably spar the same way. jamaica_power@hotmail.com "When the rich make war, it's the poor that die." (Jean-Paul Sartre) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:15:28 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Sports Vision Tests and Exercises I read a book (lab book of sorts) with batteries of tests for most popular sports at the time. What would be requirements for olympic TKD? Body type? Muscle fibres? If have seen able but heavy guys in WTTU/ATA. I will post the title if there is interest. Karel van der walt ___________________________________________ I would very interested. Thank you! jamaica_power@hotmail.com "When the rich make war, it's the poor that die." (Jean-Paul Sartre) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:57:53 PDT Subject: the_dojang: 2 tidbits on past threads FYI - only for those interested... This first little snippet is about the threads we've had on students that want to jump ahead or get too anxious and don't focus on what they should be learning for their particular rank. The article said that a lot of this off-focus, anxious, and bored feelings can really stem from the person being over-tired from two many activities and that they do not need any new activities or projects. A suggestion was to discuss with them their current projects and activity levels and help them reorganize while also incorporating time for rest and recreation in other areas of their life. The second note is from a TV show and an article I read on ADD. I know I thought that hyperactivity was included in ADD but actually there are two separate categories with very distinct training and teaching methods that need to be addressed. One is ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) and the other is ADHD or (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) and both are being diagnosed in adults as well. jamaica_power@hotmail.com "When the rich make war, it's the poor that die." (Jean-Paul Sartre) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: back... Just back from Colorado and a short visit last night with list member Dave Steffen's TKD club at Colorado State Univ. Maybe one of these trips I will figure out this sine wave thing... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #194 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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