From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #198 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 12 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 198 In this issue: the_dojang: testing/injured, butterflies the_dojang: Re: Plateaus, Moutain Tops, Valleys, and Deserts the_dojang: Pro-TKD with Sports Bras (future PPV event?) the_dojang: Self-Defense Techniques Every Woman Needs to Know the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #197 the_dojang: Len Losik's book the_dojang: RE: Moo Duk Kwan in Chicago the_dojang: Ladies in MA the_dojang: Re: Testing Butterflies (Stress and Dis-Stress) the_dojang: Re: flying kicks/Jamaica the_dojang: Re: Board Holders (plastic, not human :0) the_dojang: Re: women in promotions the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Dudley" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:30:52 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: testing/injured, butterflies Hello, all. I passed the 1st Dan test yesterday, sore ribs and all! When doing the techniques I really felt no pain, just before and after. The worst pain was when I saw a friend I hadn't seen in ages and I got a huge bear hug! I was very careful in free-sparring. In a way the test was wonderful, but in another way, uneventful. For several months I had been getting together with friends from class, outside of class, practicing, so I was well-prepared and there were no surprises. Stan, maybe that will help your butterflies. Practice until you know the stuff backwards. (And, on your right and left side). So, everyone tells me it's now a whole new ballgame. I'm looking forward to it. Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. Jane jdudley@inna.net ------------------------------ From: James Clark Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Plateaus, Moutain Tops, Valleys, and Deserts WOW Jamaica ! .... thank you for sharing this very moving moment with us. Just goes to show what the martial arts can bring out in people ... indominitable spirtit ! Thank you also for sharing the song ... as you mentioned , the title says it all ! Regards James Clark Sydney, Australia ! :-) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "John Bennett" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:45:22 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Pro-TKD with Sports Bras (future PPV event?) >At a Pro-TKD-style competition last year, the >promoters wanted the ladies to take off their uniform tops and fight in pants >and a sports bra, "for the spectators." HA! Now THAT is funny! I saw Pro-TKD on ESPN. Smelly stinky stuff (IMHO). I didn't care much for it. Now, had they been wearing "sports bras", well.... that's another story. Sorry Sally! I couldn't resist! ------------------------------ From: "John Bennett" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:51:02 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Self-Defense Techniques Every Woman Needs to Know In a blatant attempt to atone for my other post, here's a link to a magazine article featuring female martial artist Kathy Brothers. I uploaded it to the Machado website just this evening. I haven't linked to it from rest of the because I haven't gone over it with a fine tooth comb yet. Please tell me if you see any glaring errors or typos... "Get Real! Self-Defense Techniques Every Woman Needs to Know" http://www.machadojj.com/carlos/press/bb9902 Thanks! John Bennett ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:08:11 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #197 In a message dated 4/11/99 9:31:07 PM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << This brings up another question for me. Why are the judges at USTU events so secretive about the scores they give? It's not so noticeable in sparring - they're marking on little bits of paper you rarely will see or scoring electronically; but in poomse, oh my. It's nearly impossible to catch all the scores when the judging is being done because the judges keep their hands in their laps (some even bend over almost to the floor to avoid being seen by spectators), and if you look at the scorekeeper's papers, you may (usually will) be treated like an arch-criminal. I once saw a parent escorted off the floor for looking at the scores. >> Sally - Scores should be posted - in fact I allow competitors to look at their scores instead of making them turn their backs. The posting of scores is mandatory - - held high over heads. Those who try to hide their scores are usually those who are not confident about their scoring ability. If they are not posting scores - that is a regional or local thing, but not a USTU requirement. USTU wants the scores posted for all to see. ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:00:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Len Losik's book Has anyone seen the ad for Len Losik's "Tang Soo Do: A Korean Martial Art" in the latest TKD Times? I can't believe somebody could screw up that bad on hangul and still have the guts to publish. It reads something like: "T'oeng soo do". Has anyone bought this thing? What is it like? His article in TKD Times on the history of Sangmukwan (Song Moo Kwan) doesn't add anything new either, especially after Robert Frankovitch did such a nice job a few years ago. Does anyone know where Mr. Frankovitch is these days?? Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: "James R. Donley" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:13:47 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Moo Duk Kwan in Chicago >From: "anthony gagliardo" >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:20:11 PDT >Subject: the_dojang: Moo Duk Kwan in Chicago > > Can anyone tell me if there is a Moo Duk Kwan in Chicagoland area? I'm >especially interested in those associated in Grandmaster Richard Chuns' >association. Thank you all for your assistance. >Anthony T. Gagliardo > FWIW, I'm learning TKD in Evanston from Grand Master Kim, Soon-Chul. Master Kim maintains some affiliation with Moo Duk Kwan but teaches WTF forms and In Young Ryu which are dedicated sparring forms that he has developed. About three months ago a new student joined, he was from down state Illinois and indicated that he joined our school at the recommendation of his prior Master who indicated ours was the only Moo Duk Kwan school in the Chicago area. I do not know if this is indeed the case but if you are having problems locating a school this may explain your problem. I'm not sure if this is especially helpful, but if you'd like more info on the school check out our web site www.enteract.com/~jrdonley/tkd/index.html or call (847) 328-0611. If you want to drop in, take the el or the metra to Main street in Evanston and head north. The school is in the second building north of Main on the west side of Chicago Ave. Feel free to contact me off this list if you like. Jim p.s. For anyone that's interested, I'll have at least three more of the In Young Ryu forms posted on the web site by the end of the week. Thanks for all of the kind words that everyone has sent. -jd ------------------------------ From: "Michael Sarles" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:28:14 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Ladies in MA Well, there are women in MA...unfortunately, it probably comes down to percentages, target audiences and denero. Cynthia Rothrock has a large following and although the woman from Supercop (Jackie Chan) doesn't have the recognition in the US, she is quite a large star in Asian countries. I think there are quite a few female MA stars in the Asian movie making business. Secondly, if you look at percentages of men -vs- women involved in MA (IMHO) it seems as though there may be a larger pool of men to pull from. Or at least more men that will take time to bulk up and learn a couple of kicks - and because the are 'cool' or 'tough' looking - get parts in action movies. Next, there is a target audience that these movies cater too. I know that my girlfriend would much rather watch something on Lifetime while I would enjoy watching a Jackie Chan movie much more. Lastly, it's the movie business. While I wouldn't count the girl from Karate Kid as being a MA star, there is the girl from Martial Law (CBS) Cynthia, and the woman from Supercop that may get a larger following. Unfortunately, corporate movie makers know, percentage-wise, the people that are going to pay to see these movies and they will cater to that audience...beer, pork-rinds and all ;-) Michael Sarles msarles@ior.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:37:06 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Testing Butterflies (Stress and Dis-Stress) >>>>>Yesterday, I tested and passed for my blue belt, 4th gup WTF. I'm sure I am not the only one who gets nervous before testing. Then once we get started, it all just disappears! Everything just flows right out. Afterward I tell myself what dope I was for getting so wired up. I should know by now. I would like to know from some of the more experienced people on this list (that covers just about everyone else from what I see) how you deal with the pre-test jitters.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Kamsa Hamnida, Stan Wojcoski ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Congratulations Stan on your test and to all the other posters that are testing. There seem to be quite a few and also quite a few new posters, so welcome! You're absolutely correct, you're certainly not alone on this nervous thing. It just affects us differently and we all use that adrenaline rush differently. First, I sure wouldn't call myself a "dope." hahaha They must not humble you enough in your school!!! Next it sounds like you are one of the fortunate individuals that is able to get pumped up prior to your testing and then one of the lucky ones that is able to just let it flow out of you so you can perform your best. Alas, this isn't true for everybody. Some people get so keyed up and nervous they will actually throwup and get diarrhea before testing or competitions. Anyway the kind of stress you experience is called good stress. It is what enables you to perform to your max. You already are dealing with it. Most of your elite athletes experience this. There is also something called bad stress (also called dis-stress). This is not good for people and can hamper their performance and decrease their level of health. By the time the test comes they are weak, doubting themselves, and get blackouts or mental blocks on things they could normally do in their sleep. After the test or competition, it takes a very long time for them to recuperate because they can't let it go like you do. It stays with them and continues to pile up. They are the individuals that need to find coping mechanisms and alternative ways to deal with the situations they are exposed to. Hope it helps a little. jamaica_power@hotmail.com "When the rich make war, it's the poor that die." (Jean-Paul Sartre) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:28:57 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: flying kicks/Jamaica snip... << Second, was the technique. Now with some instructors I wasn't taught technique just told to do it. Others told me to start out with a couple large steps and then go into a multitude of fast baby steps, rotating the hips in the air (ha) and extending my breaking foot out while keeping the other leg tucked. (Piece of cake, no?) I should keep tucked as long as possible until about 3/4 the way over the bodies. This instruction never helped me perfect the kick so if someone has a better way of training for this kick and then executing it I would appreciate all discussion. While I have strength and speed for my size and weight (not a large person), I am not what you would describe naturally powerful (like a bigger guy athlete) so getting up the power and speed to fly over the people and then project through the boards was an issue for me. I think I lost the power over the 3rd person and sometimes the speed. I have watched so very many children and adults do this break. Some successful some not. And the ones that were successful always seemed to have their own little idiosyncrasy for accomplishing the task. Thanks a bunch. jamaica_power@hotmail.com "When the rich make war, it's the poor that die." (Jean-Paul Sartre) >> Jamaica, This may not be too helpful but your post reminded me of this story. A month or so ago we did an exercise in class. Two people held two white belts tied together, VERY gingerly I may add. We had the mats (extra mats) out for safety. We were expected to jump over the belts. I remember thinking "WHAT am I doing here?" After 2 jumps the lower back hurt a bit. We were then shown how to do it by running lots of little, quick steps then one or two bigger steps before going into the air, twisting the hip and sailing over the rope. My son was training in that class with me and what I liked was knowing that if anyone even tipped the rope the holders could drop it immediately b/c they had such a slight hold on it to begin with. No one ever fell or even stumbled. I couldn't believe that I could jump higher than a person's hip. [granted, a 14 yr. old's hip] Before we began I would have SWORN that the most you would get outta me woulda been 18" maybe 24". Maybe doing this exercise would be fun and a safe way to be more confident in this kick. I ever I need to do this kick I'll train this way for sure. Just trying jumping into the air at the edge of the rectangle gymnastic mat and jump over the rope. That would be equivalent to at least 3 people, yes? Good luck, Dawne ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:35:27 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Board Holders (plastic, not human :0) Someone asked for info. on plastic board holders to protect the holder's fingers. I saw 2 in a particular mag. last night. I *think* it is Sang Moo Sa. I KNOW I copied the number down correctly so here it is 1-800-346-3116. Hope this has what you need. Dawne ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:55:54 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: women in promotions << Probably the answer is to why you rarely hear about the women is that percentage-wise they are way in the minority. Also, in the Century catalog, there's almost always a few examples of Kathy Long in a uniform or kicking a bag, etc. BTW, it might be just as well that women aren't used so much. If you ever have a chance to check into some of the martial arts magazines from the 80's and earlier, you'll be in for real culture shock. Almost every woman is wrapped around some guy and/or in a very suggestive pose that indicates she's only there to be with or get her man. This attitude still prevails. At a Pro-TKD-style competition last year, the promoters wanted the ladies to take off their uniform tops and fight in pants and a sports bra, "for the spectators." No takers. I'll bet those guys are still wondering why... **Gee! How many brain cells does this one take? With regard to your final point, you are wise beyond your years. Sally CBAUGHN@aol.com >> Sally, I saw a catalog last week that really pissed me off. Two women were practically wrapped into each other. One had her knee in the other's crotch and they were turned to the camera with seductive smiles. They were not wearing dobaks but little short sets that showed all the leg and the abdomen and then shirts were way too tight. I can't see how ANYONE would want to bounce, run and jump in those! All the young guys were drawn to the pic. so maybe it had its desired effect. On the very next page two guys were standing together but side by side with their hands on their hips showing off casual sports clothes. I might add these were very practical clothes that one could run or kick in. I plan to write a letter letting them know if they can't take the female martial artist seriously then I can seriously take an interest in another company! FWIW, I've seen several Century catalogs and they are far better than this one I saw last week. I would advise anyone to write a letter. It is after all an enviroment of supply and demand! AND YES, Kim is very wise, far beyond her years. ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #198 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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