From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #203 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thurs, 15 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 203 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #202 the_dojang: how many hits does it take to get to the center.... the_dojang: Re: "Physics" Question (Headbutts) the_dojang: AAU Article in Tae Kwon Do Times the_dojang: Re: Flying kicks for board breaks/Ray (Not Terry) the_dojang: Tutors the_dojang: dan testing the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #202 the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:10:10 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #202 I have a quick question..... I am writing a paper for history on martial arts an dI am thinking of doing something along the lines of how all MA styles started with the same basic root and function and then developed into the differnt styles of today because of personal preferences and styles.... Any suggestions, ideas or "real-life" storiese that might help me.... Have any of you maybe started your own club because of certain things that you don't like/or agree with... Do any of you teach things differently than how you were taught? Anything would be greatly appreciated ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:45:06 EDT Subject: the_dojang: how many hits does it take to get to the center.... In a message dated 4/14/99 8:28:00 PM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << From: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:35:10 EDT Subject: the_dojang: physics ques. I have a question about physics that I know several digest members are qualified to answer. I hope that those kindly souls will do so in plain English as I haven't had physics in over 9 years :0) How much force can the average person's head take in one blow? For example, if someone has a good grab on me and I can't seem to break the grab or hold and the situation is intense IF I hit him with a head butt will he be knocked out? Will I be knocked out as well? Also, how is it that people can break several cinderblocks with their head? I've seen people do 2 and pictures of people who did as many as 8 or 9. Thanks, all help will be appreciated. Dawne BTW, I know a physics in M.A. list was established. Its just that I need this info. hopefully by Fri./Sat. for a college paper. >> dave steffens might be able to answer that one for you. i believe he's on this list too. dave? ya out there? :) melinda ------------------------------ From: "Dylan Walsh" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:44:50 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Re: "Physics" Question (Headbutts) >From: >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:35:10 EDT >Subject: the_dojang: physics ques. > >I have a question about physics that I know several digest members are >qualified to answer. I hope that those kindly souls will do so in plain >English as I haven't had physics in over 9 years :0) > >How much force can the average person's head take in one blow? For example, >if someone has a good grab on me and I can't seem to break the grab or hold >and the situation is intense IF I hit him with a head butt will he be knocked >out? Will I be knocked out as well? Also, how is it that people can break >several cinderblocks with their head? I've seen people do 2 and pictures of >people who did as many as 8 or 9. I think this is a medical question more than a physics questions. Regarding headbutts, I think you have the wrong idea entirely about the use of headbutts for self defense. If you used the headbutt just to clash heads, as you pointed out, you would probably be as likely to knock yourself out, as your opponent, and cause the same amount injury to yourself. The idea of the headbutt is to use the hard part of you head, the forehead, against a soft part of your attackers face, the bridge of the nose. I don't think people often get knockouts from headbutts, but like any blow to the nose, it very painful, has a stun effect, and the headbutt is probably the nastiest way to get hit like that. As for people breaking blocks with their heads, well I'm sure they have their reasons. ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:42:56 EDT Subject: the_dojang: AAU Article in Tae Kwon Do Times There is a very good interview with Mike Friello about the AAU Taekwondo Program in the May 99 Tae Kwon Do Times. If you do not get TKD Times you can read the article on the AAU website at http://www.aautaekwondo.org/articles/mfriello.html The article is one of the best overviews about AAU Taekwondo that I've seen. Best, Dave visit www.aautaekwondo.org ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:06:11 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Flying kicks for board breaks/Ray (Not Terry) >>>>>He also gave a bit of apsychological booster. He told everyone "the trick". Hit the board in the middle and hit it fast. That's it. Ray (Not Terry)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hi - Just an expansion on your thought (IMHO). I think the important word in your sentence is "Hit the board in the middle." That was also my point in my previous post about trying to learn techniques and tricks and that was my problem. I'll use myself as an example. Any good board break is contingent upon hitting the board correctly. And what for you is a psychological booster would be a roadblock for me. When I first started I didn't hit the board (with certain kicks) in the middle. For some people this is an easy task. When I first started I couldn't do a good board break with a back spinning kick. I could rotate fast but I rotated incorrectly. I didn't tighten up my body, I didn't rotate on the ball of my foot, I didn't turn my head first, my pivot was fast but sloppy. I looked like a baby bird flailing about trying to fly for the first time. Upon turning my arms opened wide, my stance didn't remain tucked so my leg was already beginning to turn a wide circle from my body before I was already turned around. By the time I reached the target I was lucky I hit the board and usually I hit it on the edge and got some nice bruises from that (as did the board holders). Why also stationary board holders and plastic boards didn't work for me. If I didn't know how to execute the kick to hit in the middle (which I didn't) and nobody taught me; what resulted was a lot of bad injuries to my leg. Whether it's forms or sparring or kicks or holds and throws we always need to learn them correctly the first time. So if we don't know how to get to the middle of the board, then for some of us the board won't break. To just tell a person like me to hit the board in the middle wouldn't be enough to help me do it. What I did was just keep repeating the kick in the same fashion and became better at being not good (Sloppy). Now on the other hand my front kicks are awesome. I could always break 3 boards with an elbow strike. My knife hands are cool. Back spinning kicks and flying kicks left a lot to be desired. Of course, now 20 years later all my kicks are perfect :) jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:13:05 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Tutors >>>. My advice to anyone, especially beignners, is to look around and observe people. You see someone who excels at a thing, ask them questions about it after class, ask them to help you. If you really pay attention and work hard and are willing to give in return, you may get a lot. I guess I have tutors among my instructors in this way, one for sparring, one for forms and also we are learning bo together. Sandy>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================================ Thanks, Sandy. Point well taken and I'm glad you elaborated on it. Good that you have people you are able to learn from right in your own dojang. I will admit when I was a white belt I actually learned how to do a roundhouse kick from a very young girl that always took pity on me because the instructor would say I was doing it wrong. She took me in the womens lounge and would show me how to do it correctly and what I was doing wrong. I learned much from other classmates as well. And one other thing that certainly would have been nice but wasn't around back then was a forum like Ray's where we are able to ask each other questions and share thoughts. So thanks again, Ray. I hope some of the newer martial artists realize how very valuable a forum like this is! jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:25:02 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: dan testing Hi, I was just wondering what some people have to go through for their dan tests? I know that some styles have to write thesis and other papers even for their 1st dan, while others just have to demonstrate technique. I will be testing for my second dan in TKD (WTF) in October, and my instructor told me that there is also a 2.5km (about 1.6 miles) that must be done in under 9 minutes. I can understand stamina when it comes to sparring, but does anybody else have to show physical endurance in this manner? Respectfully, Emil Fisk ------------------------------ From: samiller@Bix.Com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #202 So we're just turning over in the air so as to kick with the "back leg" (from a take-off perspective). Got it. Thanks. >So, the flying reverse side kick had the kicker planting the left foot for >the >jump, turning counter-clockwise, chambering and kicking with the left leg, >and >landing. Tang Soo! Scott A. Miller samiller@bix.com samiller@cyberenet.net ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #203 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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