From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #211 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 20 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 211 In this issue: the_dojang: Surveillance camers & Security Issues at Tournaments the_dojang: Re: Looking for forms info the_dojang: governing bodies (was re: running) the_dojang: Extra weight [Was: Running for Dan test] Re: the_dojang: governing bodies (was re: running) the_dojang: tangsudo forms the_dojang: Personalized M.A. License plates the_dojang: Re: Running/Ranger readiness the_dojang: RE: Running Dan Req Re: the_dojang: Personalized M.A. License plates the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:43:35 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Surveillance camers & Security Issues at Tournaments Let's talk about surveillance cameras at tournaments and security issues for our athletes. It is my personal opinion that they have been in use for a long time at some of the more elite tournaments. I think they should be used at local, state, and national tournaments. I especially think it's important today with the advent of the Olympics and the increasing popularity of the sports. People are there to win at any cost as much as we don't want to admit it. If I were running a tournament I would hire regular police and undercover police. Maybe a few that look like parents, a few ref's, a few coaches. Someone that even looks like me sitting in the stands observing, watching, listening from afar. Today, for goodness sake, you can even buy some pretty good equipment off the home shopping network, for a baby's room, for your garage. So when the stakes are as high as they are it only makes sense to me. The other advantage I see at having them in tournaments even in locker rooms and restrooms is the protection of our athletes. It is way way too easy to sprinkle a little drug dust into a drink, switch an energy bar, tamper with the water. Way too easy. Personally even when I go to the restroom I toss my can of pop or gatorade and get a fresh one everytime. It never leaves my site. I'm the only one that opens it. And I don't believe locking belongings in a car is safe at all. I never ask anyone to watch my belongings even for a minute. Think about this next time your athlete gets the following symptoms and you attribute them to jet lag, the flu, bad food or food poisoning, stress or overtraining (from mild to very severe symptoms which require hospitalization): diarrhea, headaches, blurred vision, stomach cramps/sever pain, nausea, vomiting. Maybe, just maybe it wasn't what you thought. Maybe somebody's playing with your athlete just enough to get them off balance. When you're only talking a point you don't need much. And BTW just in case you think I'm overexaggerating I have had this number played on me. If somebody gives you just a little too much some of this stuff it is powerful enough to kill an elephant and quite undetectable both in taste and during a hospital check. More thoughts? jamaica_power@hotmail.com Namaste - Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Darlene" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:17:20 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Looking for forms info Dennis, One good source I've found for Taeguk forms is a book from our local library: _Tae Kwon Do: The Ultimate Reference Guide to the World's Most Popular Martial Art_ by Jon Gerrard, Yeon Hee Park and Yoen Hwan Park, c1989, Facts on File Publications. It has Taeguk forms, basic techniques, sparring and attack/defense techniques, and history. Great resource up to 1st dan (no Koryo or advanced techniques.) Darlene 2nd kup Port Hadlock, WA ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:24:28 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: governing bodies (was re: running) Once again, I thank you all for the advice you've given me. I will try to think of each one while I'm training with my instructor and by myself. Michael, it looks like I will be staying with my current instructor in the future. The problem lies not with him, but rather the organization he is affilated with, the Malaysian TKD Association. They are the ones that set all the requirements. Some people might think that he could simply switch organizations, but that is not possible in Malaysia where the MTA is the ONLY governing body for the WTF system (Kukkiwon). However, you brought up an interesting question, and I will ask my instructor if running is only required for 2nd dan. This would seem likely as I don't think they could ask people with maybe 15 years of experience to become Olympic sprinters. Whereas the Malaysian TKD Association is the only governing body for WTF, there are two organizations that govern the ITF in Malaysia. One of them is the original organization which is affiliated with ITF Canada. There is also a splinter group that is now called the MITF (M standing for Malaysia), and is only recognized by the Malaysian government. From what I understand, the MITF cannot participate in any international tournaments or events sanctioned by the ITF. From my limited knowledge on the subject, the separation of the two organizations stems mainly from personal and historical racial differences. Ray, I know that you're with the USTU. Is this the only NGB for Kukkiwon in the US? What about the rest of you? How do you or your instructor choose which organization to be a part of? Are instructors allowed to deal directly with ROK and ignore the NGBs? Sincerely, Emil Fisk fiskej@pd.jaring.my ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:46:06 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Extra weight [Was: Running for Dan test] Angie Reed Garner wrote of her instructor: >He indicated he was perfectly willing to train me with my limitations >if I was willing to keep an open mind about what might actually >be possible for me to do over time with training. >He asked me not to foreclose on my own possibilities >out of fear. This seemed like a good deal to me. VERY good idea. Look at Sammo Hung. Who would believe that a "fatty" like that can be so athlethic and highly skilled at martial arts? A few months ago, there was an article in Men's Health magazine about a guy who was overweight and had a high BMI index. He had a potbelly and all. The thing is, this guy in a triathlete and can out-run, out-swim and out-bike "thin" athletes. Even his doctors are baffled because he is in peak physical condition, yet he has a higher than average body fat content (If you guys really want the article, I'll go dig it up). Closer to home, there is a BB in my Dojang that is heavier than average, but boy, I'd hate to meet him in a dark alley. He's fast, agile and taught me never to say "Fat guys can't jump." So, the moral of the story: Don't limit yourself by telling yourself you can't do something until you have tried your absolute best and failed. Even then, come back later and try again :-) Stan Lim slim@employees.org San Jose, CA ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: governing bodies (was re: running) > Ray, I know that you're with the USTU. Is this the only NGB for Kukkiwon in > the US? Yes, there should only be one National Governing Body in a country. The USTU is the NGB for the WTF in the USA... FYI, FWIW, BTW, CYA... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:13:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: tangsudo forms In response to: > I have been out of studying Tang Soo Do for a little over two years and > want to start getting into shape and practice prior to returning to > class. Does anyone know where I can find the forms ie: Pyung Ahn, Kee > Cho, Bassai, Naihanchi (sp?). I know that my memory is messing with me, > I start in one form and end in another, Master Yi would kill me. Any > help would be appreciated. > Brian McCarthy wrote: Any shotokan book will have those forms, but the names have been transliterated differently... For example, Heian - Pyung Ahn (Pinan), Tekki = Chulgi = Naihanchi. Bassai is the same. My response: There are significant differences between the way the Shotokan stylists perform a form and the way that an Okinawan stylist would perform it. It is strange to me that the original poster wanted the Okinawan versions (which can be found in Shoshin Nagamine's "Essence of Okinawan Karatedo"), since all the tangsudo sources I've seen perform the Shotokan versions of these forms. That was one of the reasons I have not yet moved from t'aekwondo to tangsudo. Are there tangsudo federations out there who support the Okinawan versions? Yours in the arts Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:54:07 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Personalized M.A. License plates Just a trivia type fun thing with me. Anybody have personalized martial arts license plates on their vehicles. I do. A couple of mine are: Warbird (military martial arts) and Hajime. If you don't have them do you have any suggestions for them. Most states are think are 7 to 8 characters long. Please share. As I travel around the country I've been logging different ones I find. Thanks. jamaica_power@hotmail.com Namaste - Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:31:27 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Running/Ranger readiness >>> Anyone here a former Ranger (as in US Army)? What is one of the criteria for being Ranger Ready? 4 miles in 28 minutes??? <<< I see in http://www.navyseals.com/dropzone/warning.html that for SEALs one must run 4 miles in 32 minutes. Of course, that's probably after a series of other amazing feats... Paul "still getting winded just running to the refrigerator" Rogers, Round Rock, TX (ATA) ------------------------------ From: Ray Simmons Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:18:34 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Running Dan Req Folks- I, too, have nothing against running. HOWEVER, I have bursitis in one of my knees and couldn't run 100 yards if my life depended on it :} I can, however, do the kicks, forms, etc. that are required to make my ranks. It's the continuous high impact on the knees that cause me big problems. I am thankful that my school does not have a running requirement for rank promotion. Just my $2.00 ($0.02 after inflation!:) - -Ray - -- Ray Simmons EMC Corporation res@mil.emc.com 5 technology Dr. (508)435-1000 x55669 Milford, Ma. 01757 - -------- Opinions are mine alone --------- ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: Personalized M.A. License plates > Just a trivia type fun thing with me. Anybody have personalized > martial arts license plates on their vehicles. I do. A couple of > mine are: Warbird (military martial arts) and Hajime. > > If you don't have them do you have any suggestions for them. Most > states are think are 7 to 8 characters long. Please share. As I > travel around the country I've been logging different ones I find. I do. It is BAHISTK. That stands for Bahi Stick. Bahi is a type of wood and is a popular material for making battle sticks. Most people think it is a religion. I guess they're almost right... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #211 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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