From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #213 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 21 April 1999 Vol 06 : Num 213 In this issue: the_dojang: How to become a referee? the_dojang: extra weight the_dojang: AAU the_dojang: Re: Extra weight the_dojang: Re: Tangsudo Forms the_dojang: Tangsudo forms the_dojang: Taeguk posters/digest #212 (fwd) [none] the_dojang: Destructive Running...? the_dojang: Re: V6 #212: rendering the_dojang: Smart Fitness: think like a champion the_dojang: Brisk Tea Karate Commerical the_dojang: KONGLISH the_dojang: Referee Awareness Training the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stan Lim Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:19:35 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: How to become a referee? For those of you who are tournament referees, how do you go about becoming one? What is the typical process if there is one? What are the requirements? What are the pros and cons of becoming a referee? Does it exclude you from competing in other tournaments? Thank you. Stan Lim slim@employees.org ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:41:05 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: extra weight I think my posting about extra weight may have off come the wrong way. I did not intend to offend anyone by saying that people who are overweight cannot accomplish the same things as people who are not overweight. I know that people will have different body-types, and I have friends that are overweight that have physical abilities that I would not be able to do without a lot of training. I was just trying to say that each inidividual is different, and the examiner may not always take this into consideration. Respectfully, Emil Fisk fiskej@pd.jaring.my ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:58:25 EDT Subject: the_dojang: AAU << I am currently part of a small regional organization and I think there could be advantages for me to work within the framework of the AAU to develop the sport aspect of Tae Kwon Do within my school. I would still however like to maintain the current structure I have in place for testings and class structure. Does anyone have any experiences doing something like this that they could share? Jason Swanson 3rd Dan >> The AAU has been great for our school because it allows us to belong to something larger without interfering with our curriculum or testing. The AAU believes very strongly that you should run your school as you see fit. The AAU's also a great place to network with other black belts. 4th Dans can become Dan Recommenders and promote up to 3rd Dan with AAU certificates and Kukkiwon certificates, yet they can still set their own testing requirements. Dave visit www.aautaekwondo.org ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:29:49 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Extra weight Stan Lim wrote: << Look at Sammo Hung. Who would believe that a "fatty" like that can be so athlethic and highly skilled at martial arts? >> Actually, Sammo has slimmed down (trimmed up?) quite a bit from his earlier days. For some interesting reading about why Sammo is so good at what he does, check out Jackie Chan's autobio "My Life in Action." Sally Baughn CBAUGHN@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:29:51 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Tangsudo Forms Dakin wrote: << There are significant differences between the way the Shotokan stylists perform a form and the way that an Okinawan stylist would perform it. >> Boy howdy!! You got that one right! It sometimes makes you wonder how they could have the same roots. Sally Baughn CBAUGHN@aol.com ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:22:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Tangsudo forms Dennis McHenry wrote: Dakin, I'm not sure if you remember me from the WKU Hall of Fame induction last June. I was working a lot with William, he had also let me borrow his dobak. Me: of course I remember you Dennis! We chatted out in the hall between some of the seminars. Dennis: You may know about the advanced tangsoodo hyungs, sorim jang kwon (sholin long fist) and tae guk kwon (tai chi form) that tangsoodo does. Have you ever seen the Korean version or have any documentation/videos with them? Me: I know of them, but have not yet seen the version that GM Ki teaches. I don't know off hand of any resources with them either. Let me know if you find any -- I'm very curious to see what style of taijiquan he supports. Take care, Dakin burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Taeguk posters/digest #212 (fwd) Forwarding, sent to the wrong address. Plus, I deleted the HTML included in your msg. Ray - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: From: "Darlene" To: Subject: Taeguk posters/digest #212 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:23:50 -0700 Thanks! I would greatly appreciate such a resource. We practiced tae guk = forms in class today and I found many errors I should not have been = making. i will also check out Master Pak's NCTA book. Please send one of the Taeguk posters to me at=20 Darlene Quayle 1233 S. Discovery Rd. Port Townsend, WA 98368 Let me know how much it costs. Thanks again, Darlene - ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BE8B7C.77025640 Content-Type: text/html; [40 lines deleted.] - ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BE8B7C.77025640-- ------------------------------ From: "Richard Olsen" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:38:51 PDT Subject: [none] Actually I didn't use the names as specifically as you took them. To be honest in class the names sounded like "pianon, no-hotch-ee, kee-choy". Personally I would have to see the form to know which version for sure, but we followed GM Hwang Kee. Thank-you all for the answers. ___________________________________________________________________ From: burdickd Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:13:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: tangsudo forms In response to: > I have been out of studying Tang Soo Do for a little over two years and > want to start getting into shape and practice prior to returning to > class. Does anyone know where I can find the forms ie: Pyung Ahn, Kee > Cho, Bassai, Naihanchi (sp?). I know that my memory is messing with me, > I start in one form and end in another, Master Yi would kill me. Any > help would be appreciated. > Brian McCarthy wrote: Any shotokan book will have those forms, but the names have been transliterated differently... For example, Heian - Pyung Ahn (Pinan), Tekki = Chulgi = Naihanchi. Bassai is the same. My response: There are significant differences between the way the Shotokan stylists perform a form and the way that an Okinawan stylist would perform it. It is strange to me that the original poster wanted the Okinawan versions (which can be found in Shoshin Nagamine's "Essence of Okinawan Karatedo"), since all the tangsudo sources I've seen perform the Shotokan versions of these forms. That was one of the reasons I have not yet moved from t'aekwondo to tangsudo. Are there tangsudo federations out there who support the Okinawan versions? Yours in the arts Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Michael Sarles" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:49:46 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Destructive Running...? Sorry Ron, I have to disagree. Your exception is due to the fact of your own personal limitations. Weight lifting is a good method of training. In fact, one of the best. But can you say that it is good for a person with severe arthiritis or osteoperosis to do a serious regime of weight lifting because it's a good excercise? No. But does that mean you have to just blindly discredit weight-lifting in general? No. Obviously, running is not for you. That's great you know what things work for you and those that don't. Also, any excercise...even low impact can cause physical problems if not done properly or aggravate an existing condition or limitation. It's nice that we all have different options. Peace, Michael Sarles msarles@ior.com > From: Ron Steele > Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:45:05 -0400 > Subject: the_dojang: Running and MA > > >There is nothing wrong with running - it's great for > endurance/wind training. > > I have to take strong exception to this. For a lot of people running is > just about the worst exercise they can do. It can destroy the knees and > cause major back problems from the constant impact. That's not > to say it's > a problem for everyone, but you don't have to be fat and out of shape to > have serious problems caused by running. Even people who enjoy > running and > have a "runner's build" sometimes find themself literaly beat up after > years of it. > > There are a lot of other exercises that will give just as good an aerobic > workout as running including swimming and cycling that are > no-impact. I am > large and have heavy bones, but I am not fat. Running for me is a virtual > impossibility. If I run a 1/2 mile, I can barely walk for the > next two days > due to knee pain. > > At any rate, I guess an MA association can set any requirements it wants, > but if mine required running, I would head for the door, at a > nice fast walk. > > Ron ------------------------------ From: samiller@Bix.Com Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: V6 #212: rendering Never underestimate the power of the backside? (sorry;>) >Never underestimate the power of us lardbutts. We'll knock ya down, then >sit on ya!! > Scott A. Miller samiller@bix.com samiller@cyberenet.net ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:01:06 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Smart Fitness: think like a champion Smart Fitness: think like a champion Olympic swimmer Byron Davis offers motivational advice. http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_infobeat.asp?/news/260770.asp - --------------------------------------------------------------------- A short but useful article that can easily apply to MA. Stan Lim slim@employees.org ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:09:07 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Brisk Tea Karate Commerical What a riot!! First time I saw it was last night? It had 3 animated puppets. Mr. Myagi, the Karate Kid and Bruce Lee. Way too funny and cute. Anybody else see it. jamaica_power@hotmail.com Namaste - Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:28:02 PDT Subject: the_dojang: KONGLISH Thought some of you might enjoy this Korean/English linquistics site. It is unique. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/5067/konglish.htm jamaica_power@hotmail.com Namaste - Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:50:07 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Referee Awareness Training I think one thing that is missing from referee training is awareness training. I know it sounds sort of funny because we are trained martial artists but I'll explain and give a few personal examples. There are so many seminars in different organizations that go into a lot of hard work to train people to be good refs and then of course there is the personal experiences that each ref gains from each match and if you're lucky, mentorships. But one thing I have not yet seen (please correct me if I'm wrong) is a training of those things that are not always apparent. Ex. Equipment checks. Now there are equipment checks and then there are equipment checks. I've seen some refs barely touch the competitor or just give a glance to make sure they have the appropriate equipment on. But, one of the slickest things (slick does not constitute approval) that I have ever seen is an athlete that sewed into the lining of their white shin guards and foot protectors some material that was close to what you would use as a shinguard in a soccer match. It was barely detectable but would be a great disadvatage to their opponent if they got hit or if the opponent blocked. Now this was caught and this was a few years back. All the athlete was told to do was change equipment and he had 1 minute to do it. No disqualification. Now even if a novice ref felt the shinguards it might not be readily apparent to them. Ex. 2 Athletes don't like to spar with mouthguards (understandable) and I've seen some of them become so very good and they turn for a brief second like to their coach and spit it out. When matches are going hot and heavy a ref doesn't always catch this and doesn't always look periodically in the athletes mouth to see if the mouthguard is still there. I've got other examples but I think you get the gist of what I'm saying. I guess what I'm saying is like when you instruct your students in school whether it's sparring, board breaking whatever. Those little tips and tricks and attention to detail can mean so much. jamaica_power@hotmail.com Namaste - Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #213 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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