From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #232 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 1 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 232 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #231 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #231 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #228 the_dojang: Re: Sweating (Healthy or Concern) the_dojang: esteem/Chris the_dojang: Re:Dr. Aiello's show the_dojang: Re: Self-defense (was: that pesky gender thing) the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:08:33 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #231 In a message dated 4/30/99 2:02:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Anyone going - besides me? >> I am; for team trials and the USTU's mid-year BOG meetings. But who will pay my fare increase : ) S.E..Silz ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:14:38 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #231 In a message dated 4/30/99 2:02:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << "Does your instructor teach you any philosophy? > If so, what is the philosophy that is taught? > How is it instilled in you as a student?" >> It may not be obvious, unless one is looking to see it, but martial art philosophy is taught (and learned) through the instructional methods and special environment the dojang (should) provides. Learning patience and persistence is definitely part of the martial philosophy but it is not well instilled by discussion, but rather through effort and example. Much of our philosophy, I submit, is communicated in this manner. S.E. Silz ------------------------------ From: Chuck Sears Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:30:10 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #228 > > > From: "Dennis McHenry" > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:42:19 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: Favorite Technique > > A question for the group: > > If you had to pick out your most favorite technique, what > would it be? > Lunch :-0 ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:55:53 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Sweating (Healthy or Concern) FYI for those interested. I did some surfing and reading. The first hyperlink supports Ray Terry's post that those that sweat a lot are very healthy. http://amsterdam.park.org:8888/Japan/Hitachi/variety/karada_e/sweat_def_1.html These two posts say that sometimes there is a medical concern that individuals might want to have checked out. http://www.skinsite.com/info_hyperhidrosis.htm http://www.reddingdermatology.com/sweating.htm jamaica@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:44:57 EDT Subject: the_dojang: esteem/Chris << Do you recall how that instructor went about teaching self confidence, self esteem, doing your best, and never giving up? A few examples would be helpful, if you can remember them. Thanks, Chris Callahan >> Chris, I saw/heard something pretty neat recently. During breaking class a kid was doing a spinning kick, having jumped over 4 people. He'd hit the board but not break it. The first miss I think took his confidence. He missed a few more times. Each time his face sank more and more. He had done the kick before so our GM said something like "You have lost your focus today, NOT your ability". He then said the same piece of *technical* advice he had said twice before. Run, run, run, jump, spin, kick and B-R-E-A-K! Thunderous applause in the dojang. A few days later...perfect the first time. Dawne ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:26:37 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re:Dr. Aiello's show Jamaica asks: <> I am in the Detroit area where the show is produced. However, it is on a relatively weak-signal radio station and very hard to get. It is broadcast on Friday mornings here. The few times I have been in my car listening to it, it was pretty interesting-covered a gamut of topics. Take Care, Peter M. mjmpmm@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 09:36:23 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Self-defense (was: that pesky gender thing) >>> Sandy wrote: My actual mom is about to start taking tai chi and my understanding is one must study tai chi for a LONG TIME before it becomes useful for self-defense. <<< As someone who's very much interested in both TKD and tai chi, I'd agree with the above statement, but with qualifications. I'd assert that whatever MA one takes, it takes a long time to become useful for self-defense. As always, it depends upon how much one commits to practicing the style, what kind of instructor one has, etc. I personally believe that tai chi is ideal for folks of slighter build, since it involves yielding to incoming forces (as opposed to attempted to block them or resist them with strength) and using whole body weight when applying force to the opponent (be that a strike, a chin-na or joint lock technique, or a throw, all of which are possible via tai chi techniques). Ironically, the 19th century standard-bearer of Yang style tai chi, Yang Cheng Fu, was over 6' 6" tall, and weighed 300 pounds. However, it was said of him that if you "pushed hands" (a hand contact sensitivity drill) with him in the dark, you'd never think he was that size...(See http://www.infomatch.com/~tomash/yang4.htm) Interestingly, in my short few years with TKD (primarily ATA), I've noticed that initially just about all training is focused on physical conditioning and meet-force-with-force blocking, in conjunction with block-first-then-punch techniques. This is followed by learning to evade during sparring (as opposed to getting nailed with a punch or kick). At occasional points in one's training, one is reminded to relax during sparring, to have a faster technique or conservation of one's energy. At one point last year or so, our instructor showed us an 'advanced black belt technique' response to a punch, with involved more of a redirection of the punch, followed by an integrated punch by the defender's opposite hand. This approach differs from the tai chi approach to training, which from the outset focuses on relaxation, redirection, simultaneous block-and-strike techniques. Another interesting comparison between my TKD instructors and my tai chi instructor is that while my TKD teachers focus on self-defense largely in terms of protecting yourself from another person, my tai chi sifu looks at self-defense in a more holistic context, as protecting one's self from any damaging force, whether it be a person, a falling branch, an unexpected foul ball, or a negligent driver pulling out in front of one's car. The concept of relaxed alertness is, I believe, present in both styles, but is emphasized more in my tai chi, IMHO. I'd be interested in hearing from the more advanced dan holders in TKD as to whether they incorporate more redirection, relaxation, etc., in their current training. Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX (ATA) ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #232 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, California Taekwondo Standard disclaimers apply.