From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #233 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 2 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 233 In this issue: the_dojang: Favorite Technique? the_dojang: Re: Favorite Kicks the_dojang: Re: Self Confidence the_dojang: Mono and Athletes and other stuff the_dojang: Re: Respect... Short comment the_dojang: M.A. in your home and at work the_dojang: Digest V6 #231 the_dojang: Training in Bali - Any style the_dojang: Re: Sweating the_dojang: Re: Martial arts and youth violence the_dojang: MA Jokes? the_dojang: Kickbaby.avi the_dojang: Re: Re: Self-defense (was: that pesky gender thing) the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Sarles" Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 08:21:49 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Favorite Technique? > > From: "Dennis McHenry" > > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:42:19 -0500 > > Subject: the_dojang: Favorite Technique > > > > A question for the group: > > > > If you had to pick out your most favorite technique, what > > would it be? Can't choose between a vertical punch or lead leg side kick. They're both my fastest and hardest when there is no time to set up something fancy. ack! Now you know my achilles heel! Michael Sarles msarles@ior.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:00:03 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Favorite Kicks In a message dated 5/1/99 11:08:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << > A question for the group: > > If you had to pick out your most favorite technique, what > would it be? > >> My absolutely favorite kick is the hook kick, specifically the spin hook. My favorite colored belt form is InWha II (Blue Belt Form in the ATA). Joe ------------------------------ From: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:06:42 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Self Confidence In a message dated 5/1/99 11:08:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Do you recall how that instructor went about teaching self confidence, self esteem, doing your best, and never giving up? >> I used to believe Self Confidence and Self Esteem was something that instructors instilled in kids, not adults. In my 7 years of Songahm Taekwondo as an instructor and student I learned that adults can benefit as well. When I started Taekwondo I thought I had ample supply of both. Looking back now, I didn't have nearly enough self confidence or self esteem. I look back at all the lessons I have learned from my instructors and fellow students and I realize just how important these 2 qualities are and how good I feel NOW when I look at myself and teach others. Joe ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 14:41:54 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Mono and Athletes and other stuff This article caught my eye for a couple reasons. A few years ago I never believed that mono could be a seriously debilitating virus until my son got it. He was in a motorcycle accident two years ago. Yep every mom's worse nightmare. The dreaded call in the middle of the night to come to the E.R. and the words "we don't know if he'll make it through the night." Well it took a long time for him to heal (no he wasn't wearing a helmet) - Hang in there please, there is a point to my backtracking :) While he was run down and healing from the motorcycle crash, he got mono. I still don't know how he got it considering he was still in bed healing from the above accident. Even the physicians didn't even suspect it so they missed the diagnosis at first. By the time they did find it he was really sick and back to the E.R. He got jaundiced, his liver and spleen were way bad, his neck was swollen about 3x normal size and he couldn't eat, drink, etc. Fever and very severe headaches. And just when I thought he was getting better he had a bad relapse. It was a good six months before he was feeling like he had recovered from it. So I offer you this article on mono and athletes. It can be very serious. And as hard as it may be; urge them to take time off and rest. Also if you click down at the bottom of the page it will take you to the homepage and there are links to some other interesting articles. http://www-cchs.ccsd.k12.wy.us/cchs_web/cramerfirstaider/mono.htm jamaica@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:07:09 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Respect... Short comment >>>I agree that respect and formality are different. I wrestle with this >>>outside the dojang a lot. We have a one year old son, and we are beginning to ask the question: what does he call our neighbors? our friends? Mark Lasich >>>>>>>>> ========================================== Please let me take this a step further for those that have older children. Today I hear more and more older teenagers and their friends (boyfriends and girlfriends) call parents by their first name. Seems almost automatic even on the first greeting. I'm not hearing many formalities anymore in that area. And when I sit in on testings and the GM asks in the proper traditional sense "what's your mom/dad's name?" "How do you address them." I have heard more than one child say the parents first name and have seen the absolute disbelief on the GM's face. And then I've watched as the child gets some much needed education in that area. Whoa be the martial arts child in some schools that doesn't say, Sir: my fathers name is: Mr./Mrs./Ms....so and so... Always did like this question for tests.. jamaica@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:20:28 PDT Subject: the_dojang: M.A. in your home and at work The women in martial arts questions inspired this post. I believe all the woman expressed more self-confidence, an ability to take care of themselves, etc. So there appears to have been a very progressive movement to the betterment of their lives in general. Did anybody notice (men too) a change in how you approached situations and people at work? Or maybe in your family life or friends? Was there a change in how you dealt with situations? Or maybe sometimes we don't see the changes in our life but others do? Did anybody ever comment that you were carrying yourself a bit prouder, or more relaxed at meetings, etc? Thanks jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:25:42 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Digest V6 #231 >>>I am; for team trials and the USTU's mid-year BOG meetings. But who will >>>pay my fare increase : ) S.E..Silz>>>>>>>>> ============================================== Please share the details of some of the exciting matches when you return. Thanks. jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Longhorn, Andrew" Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:19:46 +1000 Subject: the_dojang: Training in Bali - Any style OK, I'm off to Bali for 3 weeks at the end of next week. 1) can anyone recommend a cool style/school to watch? 2) anyone know any TKD stylists (or any MA for that matter) in Bali? 3) Its a holiday, so I'm not really interested in training in another gym, politics and all that, plus I'm getting old and set in my ways :) PLUS I'm meant to be relaxing, but if anyone knows any open minded TKD based (WTF/ITF/whatever) schools, feel free to let me know who and where. I might go and watch :) BJJ/capoeira could be cool to watch too, probably not available in bali, whatever, probably won't be able to tear myself away from the swim-up bar anyway :) What's are the native MAs of Bali/Indonesia anyway? (yes I am rubbing it in a little!) Thanks, Andrew Longhorn ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:00:51 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Sweating >>> Allison wrote: with my husband on self defense. They will say "eeeeww, he's so sweaty, do I have to work with him?" I am not kidding, these are grown women who do this. <<< I always get a kick out of kids seeing me dripping on the floor at the end of class, and saying something like, "you're really sweating...," as if it were a bad thing I'd usually be thinking, "..and you're not sweating at all...!" Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:20:59 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Martial arts and youth violence In light of the recent recurrence of school violence in Colorado, I'm curious about others' opinions on the effectiveness of martial arts training in the face of such terrifying circumstances, and how they feel they'd react to such life-or-death stress. Idealistic as I am, I'd like to think that, faced with sure death, my training would at least afford me some measure of relief from the paralysis that grips one during such events. I feel confident that I would try anything if my wife, parents, or child were directly threatened with lethal force. However, having not been through such trauma, I must be realistic in considering that perhaps I, too, would be frozen by fear. Obviously, veterans of combat (be it war, police work, etc.) may be able to keep their wits about them in such situations, so I'm especially interested in the opinions of the teenagers on our list. I'm encouraged by the account of the wrestlers who took down the young Oregon shooter (Kip Kinkel, 15) last year or you, even after being shot. This indicates that it is possible to stay focused, and act to save others, despite the consquences to one's self. Perhaps this is equally obvious, but I believe that the ability of one to remain calm during crisis to protect one's self and loved ones is perhaps the core value, intent, and raison d'etre of any martial art, way more than mere technique. It is the primary reason I push my child to practice the art (hoping that this ability will 'sneak up on her', as she is so into TKD as I am, even though she's quite capable). For those younger collagues on this list, do you think your training will allow you to remain alert during such a horrible time? Have you ever considered such a thing happening in your environment? How do you think you'd truly react? I've a few other thoughts, but I've blathered enough already... Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 23:58:15 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: MA Jokes? Hello... Does anyone know of any web-sites with martial arts related jokes? If there aren't any, would there be any interest in having one? I could set up a page where people could submit jokes so everyone else can enjoy them. Thanks. Stan Lim slim@employees.org ps: Hmmm... why do I get this feeling that Jamaica will be the first person to find a half dozen sites? :-) ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 00:53:18 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Kickbaby.avi I think this animation is pretty funny. It's 590K in size, so it might take a minute or two to download if you have a slow connection. http://www.employees.org/~slim/kickbaby.avi Stan Lim slim@employees.org ------------------------------ From: Steven Gilmore Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:46:11 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Re: Self-defense (was: that pesky gender thing) >Another interesting comparison between my TKD instructors and my tai chi >instructor >is that while my TKD teachers focus on self-defense largely in terms of >protecting >yourself from another person, my tai chi sifu looks at self-defense in a more >holistic context, as protecting one's self from any damaging force, >whether it be a >person, a falling branch, an unexpected foul ball, or a negligent driver >pulling >out in front of one's car. The concept of relaxed alertness is, I >believe, present >in both styles, but is emphasized more in my tai chi, IMHO. > >I'd be interested in hearing from the more advanced dan holders in TKD as to >whether they incorporate more redirection, relaxation, etc., in their current >training. I practice Kuk Sool Won, not TKD. One of the hardest aspects, for me, to learning KSW was to UNlearn TKD: both are Korean but they are lightyears apart in approach. KSW is "hard-soft" rather than "hard-hard." Relaxation is emphasized from the get-go: learning to "go with the flow" and never resist; never to meet linear force with linear force because that results in a strength contest, but rather to follow you-won-hwa and harmonize with the outside force. These differences are one of the primary reasons that I love KSW, although it did take quite a few years to appreciate it. Sincerely, Steven Gilmore Houston, TX, USA ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #233 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, California Taekwondo Standard disclaimers apply.