From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #236 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 3 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 236 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #231 the_dojang: How do you define Yin Yang? the_dojang: AAU Coaches' Corner the_dojang: Re: teen violence the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #233 the_dojang: Interview and BB Mag... the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #235 the_dojang: Teen violence-terrorism the_dojang: Martial arts as Therapy-Recognition the_dojang: Sparring Philosophy the_dojang: Re: What makes a good Teacher? the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~730 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron Harmon" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:52:54 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #231 > I have also heard that the more fit you are, the earlier in the workout and > heavier you will sweat. > > Kurt (the early heavy sweater) Rommel > McLean, Virginia, USA Wow, I must be in incredible shape then! I just thought I was fat! Aaron "works up a sweat bowing at the dojang door" Harmon Rancho Cordova, California, USA ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 09:11:37 PDT Subject: the_dojang: How do you define Yin Yang? I've been reading and hearing many interpretations of yin yang. I've never really been taught the meaning of yin yang, just what I learned on my own. The symbolism including the waving line (not straight harsh line) between the white and black, the night and day, heavy and earth,female/male lightness and darkness. The opposite colors within each color symbolizing the struggle and final blending of all forces. Anyone ever read more on this or write a paper on it? Do you teach this to the people in your class and ask about it at testing? I understand the correct spelling is yin yang not ying yang. jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:05:46 EDT Subject: the_dojang: AAU Coaches' Corner "Helping the Shy Student Enjoy Tournament Competition," this month's Coaches' Corner on the AAU Taekwondo web site at www.aautaekwondo.org. Dave ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:22:19 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: teen violence >>> Greg Moritz wrote: I don't feel the need to go into detail, = but a few years ago my sense of responsibility was not what it is now = and I put myself in more than a few precarious positions. >>> Nicely put...;?) >>> I can honestly say that I survived every one of those = times due to my training. Martial arts not only gave me the techniques = to protect myself in those situations, but also gave me the necessary = mentality not to freeze up. <<< That's awesome, congratulations. How was your training during that time, was it rigorous, full vs. non-contact, etc.? Thanks for the response... Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX ------------------------------ From: "Aaron Harmon" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:40:45 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #233 Two Things: Favorite technique: I think I have three. One is to lean back away from a reverse punch and throw a front leg side kick (at close range) ha ha ha ha One is also a lead leg side kick, but I pause in the middle of the chamber and wait for them to finish their block and then stick it in in the middle of their counter. Being slow can be an advantage if you know how to use it. You should see the look on thier face when one of these lands, " The third is to mirror block a punch and move to the outside and grab their hand, chop to the front of the neck and armbar there across my own chest, and then move to a figure four armlock grabbing my own wrist in my left hand for the takedown and finish. I think it is called Genkotsu Otoshi in Japanese. I have not seen this EXACT technique in KMA so I do not know what to call it in Korean. I have seen similar. It capitalizes on the assumption that you apponent will resist the armbar, by trying to bend his arm. Does anybody here practice how to switch between techniques if they resist the first one? Actually I am sure that you do, I am asking more for drills in this area, what do you do. I would think that this is more of a HKD/HRD/KSW question, because I am looking more for the grappling type drills. Aaron "Big active guy" Harmon Rancho Cordova, CA ------------------------------ From: "J. Thomas Howard" Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:54:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: the_dojang: Interview and BB Mag... Ray Terry said: - --------------------------------------------------------- As many probably already know, there is an interesting article in the June 1999 issue of Black Belt on the connection between Daito-Ryu AikiJujutsu and GM CHOI Yong-sul's Yawara/Hapkido. I suspect a great many will view this article with some controversy, esp those in the Daito-Ryu / Aikido camp. - --------------------------------------------------------- I'm glad you mentioned this----I look at the articles in BB Mag infrequently, so I might have missed it. Now I'll have to pick it up. Currently, I'm still waiting on someone from an Australian hapkido group to email me back on some info they have on their web page, regarding a person who officially trained with Takeda, and supposedly remembers Choi being in the class(es). However---no answer yet. Still have no official provable (emphasis on _provable_) evidence that Choi trained with Takeda. [sigh] I'm not actually expecting to ever quite get real proof, but I can keep hoping. Thomas Nebraska Hapkido Association - -------------------------------- thomcat@radiks.net http://www.binary.net/thomcat/Hap.html "If you had another brain cell, you'd be halfway to a synapse." ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:00:06 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #235 In a message dated 5/3/99 10:55:19 AM US Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << As many probably already know, there is an interesting article in the June 1999 issue of Black Belt on the connection between Daito-Ryu AikiJujutsu and GM CHOI Yong-sul's Yawara/Hapkido. I suspect a great many will view this article with some controversy, esp those in the Daito-Ryu / Aikido camp. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com >> This article floored me. Ive been studying hapkido on/off for several years and Ive never heard GM Choi interviewed. Ive always believed the contents of that interview with respect to GM Choi's background but Ive never seen in in print in "interview form". Does anyone know of any other "interviews" in print with GM Choi? Mark Daley Indianapolis, Indiana ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:51:58 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Teen violence-terrorism >>>In light of the recent recurrence of school violence in Colorado, I'm >>>curious about others' opinions on the effectiveness of martial arts >>>training in the face of such terrifying circumstances, and how they feel >>>they'd react to such life-or-death stress. Paul Rogers>> =================================================== I think martial arts can be effective after the initial shock is over. Taking charge, being strong, in control and then finding ways to not let this occur again and to once again make the world noble (even our own personal worlds). Teen violence is just another form of terrorism (IMHO). Perhaps even more violent because it comes from within our own troops, our own ranks, our own country, our own children. It's a betrayal of sorts and that's something we really don't talk about in the martial arts. We talk about loyalty, not betrayal and how to cope. Perhaps the military does. Right now shock comes first, dismay, disbelief coupled with the fact that these are our children. And for us adults we many times wonder what it is that we've done wrong. To me it's like when you're in a bad accident. First you go into shock and then you slowly come out of it. You recover and then you become stronger and move on. And with that you take a deeper understanding into your own life and the meaning in other lives. Some people alas live with anger and bitterness with these types of experiences, but I think martial artists have that indomitable spirit and are excellent at letting go of the anger and quickly moving forward to making situations better. Taking responsibility and accountability. jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:45:16 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Martial arts as Therapy-Recognition This is a really nice article on the good martial arts can do for people. Nice to read these things. Sort of validates us positively in the eyes of others. http://www.detnews.com/1997/metlife/9709/25/09250079.htm jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: AJ Woodburn Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:37:13 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Sparring Philosophy Recently, a very close friend of mine was a little roughed up in a sparring match at a tournament we recently attended. She was punched over the left eye and kicked in the back, both were called points and she now has a black eye. Let's not get hung up on a judging thread, we all know that a few judges have, do, and will always judge unfairly, this is not my point. I am kin to those who entertain the philosophy of being disqualified rather than losing matches. I also entertain a philosophy that, if your opponent wishes to turn the match into a fight, you should fight back. If your opponent wants to hit you hard and bend the rules, you have to take it to the next level and bend them yourself. My friend was very upset, she is not the type to fight anyone to hurt them and at the same time was being ROYALLY screwed out of the match. I guess this was too much for her and she just kinda broke down. Obvoiously, this upset me as well at the rest of the group greatly. I guess my point is that you cant fight by the rules and beat someone who wont follow them. AJ Woodburn 2nd Dan TSD ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:29:52 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: What makes a good Teacher? Jamaica ponders: >Do you think a good teacher is one that imparts his own wisdom on you or one >that retrieves the wisdom that is already deep within you? Both, because both are equally important sources of wisdom. >One that wants you to live their truth and preserve it or one that wants you >to find your own and explore it? Probably both, but I'd lean heavier on letting the student find their own way around things. A good teacher IMO, will give the student enough freedom to learn, even by mistakes. Teachers can impart tradition with the hopes that the student will preserve it, but it is up to the student to choose. >Or perhaps a little of both (ying/yang)? Whenever there are more than one sides to a situation, my ideal teacher would expose me to all the other sides. I personally believe in balance. For example, teach the benefits of doing good, but warn the students of doing harm. That sort of thing. >Any other qualities? Other qualities I look for in a good teacher include: - - Humility - Don't like "know-it-all" teachers who insist that their way is the only right way. - - Continual learning - Good teachers set the example that learning is a never ending process. Few things feel as good as learning something new WITH you teacher. - - Inspiring - Teachers can lecture and provide all kinds of info and knowledge. Good teachers will make you want to do something with that new knowledge. - - Patience - Some of us are more stubborn or stupid. A good teacher will not give up on me. - - Ability to teach - Sounds contradictory, but teaching is a skill. In college, I've had PhDs who designed rockets, but can't teach a lick, and teaching assistants who were able to make me understand what the PhD was saying in class :-) Enough for now :-) Later. Stan ------------------------------ From: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #236 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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