From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #243 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 5 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 243 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Is the Um or Yang Missing? the_dojang: Re: Sparring Philosophy the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #241 the_dojang: Friends the_dojang: Re: MA Humor Links Re: the_dojang: Friends the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #241 the_dojang: Social Skills and Conflict Resolution Training the_dojang: Re: Breaking the Rules the_dojang: Re: Tournament Terms (Round Robin, etc) the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~730 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Rogers Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:50:17 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Is the Um or Yang Missing? >>> Jamaica wrote: I have been totally inspired by the variety of historians I have met on many forums. So I started reading tons of stuff for myself. The interesting thing I noticed that was absent from any of the writings is women martial artists.[snip] So on my newly found quest I'm finding one or two more names. <<< I assume you've already found the legend of Yimm Wing Chun, whose teacher, Ng Mui taught her an efficient art which was a synthesis of Shaolin styles: http://martialartsnet.net/Wing_Chun.htm I know of no female grand-master types in TKD or other KMAs, although our school owner's wife is one of the few (two?) 6th dan Master Instructors in the ATA... I have some Daito-Ryu Aikijujitsu v'tapes that show a particularly adept dan-holder, but I don't recall the name. Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:04:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Sparring Philosophy >>> AJ Woodburn wrote: WOW! so many responses!!!! I have alot to say; first; Chuck Sears wrote: >Sorry, I gotta disagree with this. It's the "everybody else is doing >it" excuse for justifying your own mistakes. I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, she made no mistake, she just wasnt ready for fierce competition like that <<< I interpreted Mr. Sears response as being to another poster who said "give as good as you got." I personally feel that, ironically, it's harder to bow out of the match than it is to respond in kind or suffer the abuse. I think Mr. Sears' suggestion (bow out saying "I didn't realize there was that much contact") is nicely put and a great idea, but not necessarily easy to do...! Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX (ATA) ------------------------------ From: Paul Rogers Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:13:49 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #241 >>> J Thomas Howard wrote: The _one_ thing that I like better about the classic Yin/Yang vs. the Korean Um/Yang is that in the classic version, each part (yin or yang) has just a tiny part of the other in it. <<< One of my instructors mentioned that they looked at the Tai Chi Tu (Chinese yin/yang diagram) as more 3-D than it looks, where the one dot is not necessarily a little bit OF yang IN yin, or vice versa, but actually an entrance FROM yin TO yang, or vice versa. In other words, in combat, yield more and more until [BOOM] you can respond with a bunch of yang, or, conversely, attack until you suddenly need to yield, based on the opponent's actions. fwiw... I'd still be interested in hearing if TKD practitioners, esp. higher dan holders, ever consider/train/acknowledge/practice yin activities in their style... Obviously, Kuk Sul Won and Hapkido students incorporate this concept in their training. Paul Rogers, Round Rock, TX (ATA) ------------------------------ From: Franklin Houseton II Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Friends Hey, some of you might remember me under f_houseton_ii@hotmail.com I know this might not have something to do with the Digest but I got into a fight with the another newsletter and I left them before it got any worse. And I can really use some friends right about now. Franklin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 13:32:18 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: MA Humor Links Danny Abramovitch shared: >I've been compiling the links that folks have sent >at my links site: > >http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Danny_Abramovitch/ma_sites.html#Humor Both the MA Humor links there are no longer valid. Looks like it was a student account at U of Alberta. Too bad, the "Monty Python: Self-Defense Against Fresh Fruit" one looked interesting. >Also, I have a list of martial arts song parodies at > >http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Danny_Abramovitch/martial_su.html > >in Adobe Acrobat (PDF) form. Those are all my original creations. >Also, I'll try to post the original version of the "Top 10 Reasons >for Practicing Martial Arts".... Cool! I especially liked the "In His Kicks". Would you care to add them to the Misc. section on my link page? By the way, why did you use PDF files? No time to convert them to html files? >Ya'll never saw my "Top 10 Signs Your Jujitsu Instructor Has Gone Nuts". >:-) Well, ya never posted the URL, did ya? :-) BTW, Danny's got a great site with lots of links to MA info, sites, etc. I'm bookmarking his home page :-) Stan Lim slim@employees.org ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: Friends > Hey, some of you might remember me under > f_houseton_ii@hotmail.com I know this might not have > something to do with the Digest but I got into a > fight with the another newsletter and I left them > before it got any worse. And I can really use some > friends right about now. Welcome, friend... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Chuck Sears Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 16:04:10 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #241 > > > From: AJ Woodburn > Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 17:53:05 EDT > Subject: the_dojang: Sparring Philosophy > > WOW! > so many responses!!!! > I have alot to say; > > first; Chuck Sears wrote: > > >Sorry, I gotta disagree with this. It's the "everybody else is doing > >it" excuse for justifying your own mistakes. > > I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you're talking > about, she made no mistake, she just wasnt ready for fierce competition > like that > Sorry, I probably should have been more specific. My disagreement was with the concept expressed that when someone makes excessive contact with you, you should turn around and make excessive contact right back. If that happens, the tournament degenerates into a slug fest and we lose all the way around. I apologize for not being more specific. ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:13:59 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Social Skills and Conflict Resolution Training I do wish I could take the credit for this post but the idea came from an email buddy. This idea came about as we were discussing my "Wish List" for improving the referee training programs. Social skills and conflict resolution training are a good idea for everybody but I think it would be great to incorporate this into referee training. I think sometimes we assume we all are operating from the same base level and we're just not. Some people are just socially good and have a certain presence about them, some people receive training at work. But as my friend pointed out (and I have witnessed these experiences) there have certainly been times when a ref is just questionned or confronted or challenged a little and they either fly off the handle, get defensive, or add fuel to the fire instead of tempering competitors, coaches, spectators. jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:32:47 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Breaking the Rules >>>Are we talking about bending the rules or breaking the rules? AJ and I like to think that I try to neither bend nor break the rules of the tournament. Sometimes I have bent the rules, however looking back I think that I was wrong for doing so. I don't see why one would need to; "break only the rules that had already been broken by the opponent". I like to think that I try to neither bend nor break the rules of the tournament. Sometimes I have bent the rules, however looking back I think that I was wrong for doing so. I don't see why one would need to; "break only the rules that had already been broken by the opponent".Scott Cink ======================================== What's the difference between the two? jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:11:18 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Tournament Terms (Round Robin, etc) >>There are additional terms / definitions used in WTF type competitions. I >>trust the above helps. Respectfully, Gregg London>> Thank you, Gregg. (Smile) And exactly why I asked if someone else could do the post. I could never have done it so well. Appreciated. jamaica_power@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #243 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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