From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #273 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 23 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 273 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Ray's Summer Camp the_dojang: Re: Ray's Summer Camp the_dojang: ** Qualifying Not Always a Fair Fight ** the_dojang: Teaching the_dojang: Re: Info request (#270) and juniors the_dojang: Questions About Taekwondo the_dojang: Martial Arts Peacekeeping Force In Kosovo the_dojang: Martial Arts Oaths the_dojang: High-Fives the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:53:14 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Ray's Summer Camp >>>Is this an actual program or ??? Sounds like a GREAT idea. Ray Terry>>> ======================================= Actual program. At the completion you get a pin, certificate and some other stuff. jamaica _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:27:10 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Ray's Summer Camp Just a followup to my original post where I mentioned a Little Chefs Cooking class. This, of course, has to be fun so the cook has to be entertaining. And the kids always LOVE when the class starts out by dropping Chinese rice noodles into hot oil and they expand to about 5 times their size. Gets them primed for the rest of the class. Brings lots of oh's ah's and giggles. Say Ray, John Hancock posted that he is a cook....Maybe you should ask him! jamaica _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Peter Bardatsos Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:21:16 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: ** Qualifying Not Always a Fair Fight ** This is a long post taken from an article written in the Colorado Springs Gazette. Read Below: Link to article ----> http://www.gazette.com/archive/99-05-11/spts3.html Qualifying not always a fair fight - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Kamon Simpson/The Gazette Sometimes even being the best isn't good enough to make an Olympic team. Peter Bardatsos knows the feeling. He's established himself as America's best heavyweight fighter in taekwondo. In March he won the United States Pan Am Trials qualifier, and he followed that victory by winning his weight division in the U.S. World Championships Qualifier on Sunday, earning him a trip to Edmonton, Alberta, next month to compete for a world title. But even if Bardatsos wins a world title - something no American man has ever done in taekwondo - and even if he wins a gold medal at the Pan Am Games in Winnipeg, Manitoba, he's still on the outside looking in at the Olympic picture. There's virtually no way he can make the U.S. team. "It's tough, knowing that you're going to the Pan Am Games to represent you country, and that most of the athletes there have the inside track at making it to the Olympics, but that no matter what you do, afterwards it's, 'See you later,'" Bardatsos said. For taekwondo's Olympic medal debut next summer in Sydney - it was a demonstration sport in 1988 in Seoul and 1992 in Barcelona - a limit of 100 competitors has been set. National teams consist of eight fighters, with four weight divisions each for men and women, but each country is limited to sending no more than four fighters to the Olympics, two men and two women. Even those four spots aren't guaranteed. Competitors must place in the top four of an Olympic qualifying tournament in Croatia in July in order to earn a spot in Sydney for their country at their weight class. It's possible for 100 countries to send one fighter each, or, on the other end of the spectrum, for 25 countries to send four fighters each. Shortly before the Pan Am Trials in March, the United States Taekwondo Union decided which weight divisions it would send to Croatia, picking flyweight and welterweight for women and flyweight and featherweight for men. That left Bardatsos, and three other fighters, on the outside looking in. Stewart Gill, Elizabeth Evans and Heidi Gilbert also won their weight divisions at the Pan Am Trials, establishing themselves as legitimate Olympic-caliber contenders, but were caught in the numbers crunch. Steven Lopez and Jason Torres - best friends and teammates from a small taekwondo school in Texas - will try to earn spots for the U.S. men, while Kay Poe and Barb Kunkel will go for the U.S. women. While Torres sat out last weekend's tournament, concerned that the World Championships fall too close to Olympic qualifying, Lopez and Poe won their weight divisions and will compete for world titles, while Kunkel was upset by two-time Olympian Arlene Limas. And although the other four fighters said they tried not to allow the Olympic decision to affect their motivation or concentration - and while the World Championships would have been a nice consolation prize, since it's considered a tougher competition in taekwondo than the Olympics - three of them lost this weekend. Only Bardatsos fulfilled his goal. "Getting snubbed for the Olympics, it just pumped me up that much more to do what no other American man has ever done, to win a world championship," Bardatsos said. "That and the Pan Am Games are the most important competitions of my life. If I win both, I'll show them that they made a mistake, that they should have picked me." Bardatsos and Evans have the most to lose from not making the Olympic team. He is 33, she is 37, and both could be too old to wait until the 2004 Summer Games in Athens. That's not the case for Gilbert, who recently turned 17, and Gill, who will turn 21 in two weeks and says, "Definitely, in 2004 and 2008, I'm going to the Olympics." Gill said he understood that part of the decision was based on international experience, something he lacks since he's been fighting mostly in the junior ranks. "But then again, those American guys who do have the international experience, look at their records," Gill said. "They aren't that stellar. There has to be a time when the new cats get the opportunity to gain experience. " At least Gill was delivered the news, that he wouldn't be given an Olympic opportunity, in a way that left him satisfied. A few hours after winning the Pan Am Trials, he was told by John Holloway, a USTU official. "He looked me in the eye and gave me the news, man to man," Gill said. The other fighters weren't so lucky. Evans found out a couple of days before the Pan Am Trials from a teammate who was taping her ankle for a workout. Evans has shaped her entire existence around trying to make it to the Olympics. She is active duty in the Navy, and for years requested assignment in Colorado Springs so she could train with the U.S. team. "But since taekwondo wasn't an Olympic sport, I was turned down every time," she said. When taekwondo was included in Sydney's program, Evans was allowed to move here as part of the Armed Forces World Class Athlete program. She lives at the Air Force Academy and works out at the Olympic Training Complex. Now, with almost no chance of making it to the 2000 Summer Games, she's waiting to see where she'll be posted next. "I was most upset about the way I found out," Evans said. "Now I've got the Pan Am Games, which will be kind of like my Olympics, and the Military World Championships a week later. Those are my two main goals. "I know I'm not going to be around for the 2004 Olympics. I'm not entertaining that thought whatsoever." For Evans, making the Olympic team was a one-shot deal. She proved worthy of the challenge. Unfortunately, this time that wasn't enough. Story edited and headline by B.J. Hoeptner Kamon Simpson may be reached at 636-0215 or ksimpson@gazette.com - -- Sincerely, Peter Bardatsos 7-time US Team Member and US Team Captain Bardatsos Taekwondo ** http://www.bardatsostkd.com ------------------------------ From: CMPorter@webtv.net (Chris Porter) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Teaching Thank you for all of your input in regards to my post about losing students. You all gave me something to think about,or a "new" way to see the things that are right in front of me. I need to keep my mental ball rolling so it won't rust up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again Thanks. CMPorter@webtv.net ------------------------------ From: "Kim Jones" Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:35:07 KST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Info request (#270) and juniors Steven-- I might not be correct on this, but I think "hwa rang" translated literally to "flower of youth." You might want to ask someone else... I picked that up reading somewhere... a good source would be books on Korean history. Eric-- NOOOOOOOOOO! You get to go to Vegas... this is my last year to compete at the Junior level and because of bad planning and the PCS over here to Korea, I'm unable to go. :( But please let us know how things go and how much the grand total of expenses (especially concerned with airfare, hotel, registration fees) adds up... this could be handy when I move back stateside. Kim Jones "All warfare is based on deception." --Sun Tzu, "The Art of War" BTW - yesterday, in addition to being my 17th birthday, was Buddha's lunar birthday (5.22.99). Just interesting information. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Timothy Bruening Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Questions About Taekwondo I am a Taekwondo Karate student at Rodness' Karate Club in Davis, CA. Its affiliated with the International Taekwondo Council. On April 29 I tested for and won my 8th Grade Decided Orange Belt. I have a few questions: Why do most of the forms in Taekwondo start to the left? For example, the White Belt Form starts with a low block and a left front stance, 90 degrees to the left from my ready stance. Dan-Gun (the Orange Belt form at my school) starts with a knife-hand block and a right back stance. The sequence of belts at my Karate school goes White-Orange-Yellow-Low Green-High Green-Purple-Blue-Brown-Red-Red/Black-Black. How did the various Karate and other Martial Arts disciplines decide on their belt color schemes? What belt color scheme does your Martial Arts school use? At my school, the senior students stand in front, and the right-most student (called the senior student) in front tells the instructor to recite the tenants of Taekwondo (Courtesy, Integrity, Perseverance, Self-Control, and Indomitable Spirit). The instructor and the students do so at the beginning and end of every class. The instructor also tells the students to bow. At the end of each class, after the instructor and students recite the tenants, the student to the left of the senior student tells everyone to face and bow to the senior student. What is the origin of the above actions? What ceremonies happen at your school? How do Taekwondo practitioners go about being "a champion of freedom and justice", and building "a more peaceful world"? ------------------------------ From: Timothy Bruening Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Martial Arts Peacekeeping Force In Kosovo To end the war in Yugoslavia, I have suggested that Black-Belt Martial Artists serve as peacekeepers in Kosovo. They would be unarmed, as Milosevic wants, but be able to defend themselves. What do you think of this idea? Is it feasible? ------------------------------ From: Timothy Bruening Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Martial Arts Oaths International Taekwondo Council Taekwondo students take an oath to "observe the tenets of Taekwondo, respect instructors and seniors, never misuse Taekwondo, be a champion of freedom and justice, and build a more peaceful world". Most of these I understand, but how do Taekwondo practitioners go about being "a champion of freedom and justice", and building "a more peaceful world"? What oaths, if any, do you take? ------------------------------ From: Timothy Bruening Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: High-Fives At the end of each class at Rodness' Karate Center at 415 L Street in Davis, CA, the instructor high-fives (slaps the hands of) the students. Does this happen at your Martial-Arts school? ------------------------------ From: Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 07:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #273 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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